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Ozark_52
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 Soundcard benefits?
Hello Everyone, Now that I have a bit more money to work with, I've been toying with the idea of getting a dedicated soundcard for my system. I was wondering if you all had any thoughts on 'em (for the record I have tried google, but I didn't really get a clear consensus. Plus I trust you guys more than random people from google). Are they worth it? While it would be nice to hear more things in game, I'm also curious if they help with music quality or not, as I probably listen to music more often than I play CS:S anymore. These are the headphones I use: http://www.amazon.com/Ultimate-Ears-Met ... 579&sr=8-1My speakers are currently cheap 2.0 ones, but my friend is looking to sell his 5.1 surround sound ones for cheap, so I might be upgrading in the future.
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| Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:48 am |
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Tazzaler
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 Re: Soundcard benefits?
First off to get the most out of anything, you'll want to invest in some cans, sure those might be good plugs but they're still never going to delver what a good set of cans can.
Dedicated sound cards are nice period, more possiblites to config settings such and such and an audiophile would tell you the audio quality is far better.
The suppot for 5.1 will possibly be better as well on dedicated than on-board.
but any way you go you're going to have sound...I'd make sure that you don't need to to upgrade anything else on the machine first (video such an such) before you put money on audio because well for some reason in my mind investing in sound should come last when it comes to comp builds.
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| Mon Aug 02, 2010 8:57 am |
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Ozark_52
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 Re: Soundcard benefits?
Tazzaler wrote: First off to get the most out of anything, you'll want to invest in some cans, sure those might be good plugs but they're still never going to delver what a good set of cans can.
Dedicated sound cards are nice period, more possiblites to config settings such and such and an audiophile would tell you the audio quality is far better.
The suppot for 5.1 will possibly be better as well on dedicated than on-board.
but any way you go you're going to have sound...I'd make sure that you don't need to to upgrade anything else on the machine first (video such an such) before you put money on audio because well for some reason in my mind investing in sound should come last when it comes to comp builds. Thanks for the input =) . Yeah, I understand that my headphones will still be a tad limiting. I'd just rather wait until those go kaput to replace them rather than replace 'em immediately. They're still a nice pair of headphones IMO (plus they were a gift...). I was just looking at the soundcard now as it'd be nice to have that in place when I have to replace the headphones and it'd be great to get the card while I have the money. As for your last point, I agree that investing in this should be the last thing. That's why I waited a long while before looking into soundcards. I just upgraded my video card to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product.. , and as far as I'm concerned my CPU/Mobo should last me for another few years (barring anything going bad...). It's one of those things that I always felt it would be nice to have if it makes a noticeable difference, but I couldn't see it being a top priority. Heck the reason I'm considering it now is because my friend offered me the deal on his 5.1 set when he moves out.
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| Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:18 am |
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Tazzaler
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 Re: Soundcard benefits?
Ozark_52 wrote: Tazzaler wrote: First off to get the most out of anything, you'll want to invest in some cans, sure those might be good plugs but they're still never going to delver what a good set of cans can.
Dedicated sound cards are nice period, more possiblites to config settings such and such and an audiophile would tell you the audio quality is far better.
The suppot for 5.1 will possibly be better as well on dedicated than on-board.
but any way you go you're going to have sound...I'd make sure that you don't need to to upgrade anything else on the machine first (video such an such) before you put money on audio because well for some reason in my mind investing in sound should come last when it comes to comp builds. Thanks for the input =) . Yeah, I understand that my headphones will still be a tad limiting. I'd just rather wait until those go kaput to replace them rather than replace 'em immediately. They're still a nice pair of headphones IMO (plus they were a gift...). I was just looking at the soundcard now as it'd be nice to have that in place when I have to replace the headphones and it'd be great to get the card while I have the money. As for your last point, I agree that investing in this should be the last thing. That's why I waited a long while before looking into soundcards. I just upgraded my video card to this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... -_-Product... , and as far as I'm concerned my CPU/Mobo should last me for another few years (barring anything going bad...). It's one of those things that I always felt it would be nice to have if it makes a noticeable difference, but I couldn't see it being a top priority. Heck the reason I'm considering it now is because my friend offered me the deal on his 5.1 set when he moves out. Well video card wise you're set...though I am unsure of the brand Gigabyte. I've seen them around sure, but still not to cemented if they make a good product. If you're certain that you're CPU and motherboard will be good to go than go ahead with the soundcard upgrade, do yourself a favor and spend the money on something good now. If memory serves me correct the soundcard market moves quite more slowly than the other parts markets. If you plan to use your speakers a lot than save the money for the headphone till later than.
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| Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:28 am |
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Spyda
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 Re: Soundcard benefits?
Yeah a sound card is DEFINITELY worth it. You get such a better, stronger 3-d directional sound. Right now it sucks for me going from my house playing then going to work playing and having 3 sounds, left, right, and in front of me.
I have and recommend X-Fi Xtreme Gamer. Mainly because they have 3 profiles you can use, 1 gaming, 1 entertainment, and 1 Audio Creation. I always use the entertainment for music and never have to worry about it F*CKING up my sound in CS due to it being louder with more bass.
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| Mon Aug 02, 2010 3:13 pm |
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Bleep
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 Re: Soundcard benefits?
Yeah i use the X-Fi Xtreme gamer too and its a major improvement from onboard buttttttttt ive heard the asus xonar sound cards blow any x-fi soundcard out of the water idk why or how but from all the reviews ive read from the audiophiles and all the crazy audio people that azunetech and asus xonar are like the best sound cards sooooo thats my recommendation
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| Mon Aug 02, 2010 4:46 pm |
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Ozark_52
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 Re: Soundcard benefits?
Spyda wrote: Yeah a sound card is DEFINITELY worth it. You get such a better, stronger 3-d directional sound. Right now it sucks for me going from my house playing then going to work playing and having 3 sounds, left, right, and in front of me.
I have and recommend X-Fi Xtreme Gamer. Mainly because they have 3 profiles you can use, 1 gaming, 1 entertainment, and 1 Audio Creation. I always use the entertainment for music and never have to worry about it F*CKING up my sound in CS due to it being louder with more bass. Is this the one? http://www.amazon.com/Creative-Sound-Bl ... 123&sr=1-1Also, out of curiosity, how are the drivers for it? I've heard mixed things when it comes to drivers from Creative for Windows Vista/7, but I have a feeling a lot of those stemmed from earlier on and may have been fixed now. Bleep wrote: Yeah i use the X-Fi Xtreme gamer too and its a major improvement from onboard buttttttttt ive heard the asus xonar sound cards blow any x-fi soundcard out of the water idk why or how but from all the reviews ive read from the audiophiles and all the crazy audio people that azunetech and asus xonar are like the best sound cards sooooo thats my recommendation I looked a bit into those as well (the comparatively priced Xonar DX). It's hard to get opinions on them from google though as it seems half of the people praise it just because they hate Creative. I'll look more into these as well, though if the drivers aren't too bad for the X-fi I may just pick up that.
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| Mon Aug 02, 2010 5:29 pm |
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Spyda
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 Re: Soundcard benefits?
Yeah that's it. The 2 weeks that I had Win7 I didn't have any problems from the sound. I always install with the CD first though because I like the control panel at the bottom right that you don't get when you just install only from the website. Sometimes the update takes FOREVER through the update thing though which sucks, but I don't reformat often. And that is the only Creative product I've ever had, so it isn't like I'm just some huge fan of it.
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| Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:01 pm |
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Ozark_52
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 Re: Soundcard benefits?
Spyda wrote: Yeah that's it. The 2 weeks that I had Win7 I didn't have any problems from the sound. I always install with the CD first though because I like the control panel at the bottom right that you don't get when you just install only from the website. Sometimes the update takes FOREVER through the update thing though which sucks, but I don't reformat often. And that is the only Creative product I've ever had, so it isn't like I'm just some huge fan of it. Alright, thanks. After some searching I think I'll end up taking your advice and going with the xtremegamer. I looked at the similarly priced ASUS xonar that Bleep mentioned and I wasn't really sold in comparison to the xtremegamer (plus my only available PCI-e slot is directly underneath my videocard, and I'd like to avoid putting anything there if possible). Thanks everyone!
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| Tue Aug 03, 2010 7:49 am |
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9k.
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Joined: Tue Aug 03, 2010 9:52 pm Posts: 20 Location: South Windsor, CT
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 Re: Soundcard benefits?
i used a ASUS Xonar Essence STX and its the shit, period.
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| Thu Aug 05, 2010 5:33 pm |
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Mindless
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 Re: Soundcard benefits?
I use an external SoundBlaster X-fi...its pretty F*CKING sweet actually.
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| Tue Aug 10, 2010 1:19 am |
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Kwang!
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 Re: Soundcard benefits?
SoundMax HD ftw. I don't own a computer, I play on public systems.
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