Turning My Secondary WiFi Router Into A Repeater
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Kwang!
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 Turning My Secondary WiFi Router Into A Repeater
Hi there good sirs, I have a conundrum for you networking geniuses:
Primary Router is a Linksys E2500. Secondary is a Netgear WG602v4.
I need to know how to setup the Netgear as a repeater. I have read the manual and looked at instructions for doing so. The issue is that when I plug the Netgear into a PC or laptop that has access to the E2500, I can access the E2500's options via the browser, but the Netgear doesn't appear to be a viable option and doesn't allow access to the options despite having a dedicated IP. When I set a computer to have the static IP required for setting up the Netgear initially, the network goes down.
Help, pl0x!!
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| Tue Nov 01, 2011 11:27 pm |
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Gman
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What's the IP address and netmask of each router?
What IP address are you setting on your system that is killing your network?
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| Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:04 am |
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Kwang!
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I don't have access to everyone's computer in the event that I need to plug the Netgear into a specific one. If I do, then of course it'd know which one was the culprit and be able to ask that person if I am allowed access. Each person who lives here is a private citizen of the household and not a relative.
Netmask for all of the computers is 255.255.255.0, The IP that kills my network is: 192.168.0.210. The individual IPs are as listed in this picture:
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| Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:17 am |
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CHRiS
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The reason it's killing your network (by this I mean disconnecting your computer from the network if i read correctly) is that you're jumping to the 192.168.0.X subnet when trying to access 192.168.0.227, which should be the netgear's default IP. When set your computer to the static IP to configure the netgear, can you still not access the netgear?
Either way, be sure your each router is on separate channels, and for both pick a (different one for each) from channels 1, 6, or 11 for best results. You can also do a scan and see what other channels are out there and get away from that kind of interference.
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| Wed Nov 02, 2011 10:13 am |
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Kwang!
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I think I sort-of understand what you said CHRiS, because I know that I can configure each of those settings. I haven't tried setting specific channels. When I set my computer (or anyone's computer for that matter) to the static IP for the Netgear, my entire network goes down. Also, the IP range for the Linksys only goes up to 192.168.1.149 by default, which could be partly to blame.
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CHRiS
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Ignore the channel stuff for now, at least till you can configure both routers. I'ma try to hash this out: 192.168.X.Y <--- This is your IP address. Assume for the sake of simplicity that X is your subnet (really it is 192.168.X), and Y is your specific machine's address (or host address, etc..) 255.255.255.0 <--- This is your subnet mask. What is a subnet mask? The subnet masks makes different subnets out of your total IP space. In this case, when it is 255.255.255.0, it means you can change only things in the fourth octect, so the Y variable in the IP address, and still be able to talk to other machines in the same subnet. What this means: any IP address with ANY Y, can talk to any IP address with ANY other Y, if they have the same X. (Well, same 192.168.X)
So, right now, from the looks of your screenshot, your linksys router is assigning IP addresses with X being 1, therefore anything statically set to have an IP address with X being anything other than 1, like 0 in the case of your netgear, will not be able to talk to the linksys router or anything else on the 1 subnet for that matter.
When you statically change your X to 0 to talk to the netgear router, you will and should lose connectivity to everything else (everyone else's computers should still be working fine), but however, you SHOULD be able to connect to your netgear router, since it's X is also 0. Are you able to?
What IP are you setting as your static one when you want to connect to the Netgear? I'm pretty sure any Y with X = 0, 192.168.0.Y, should work, as long as you're not setting the IP address to the same thing as your netgear, which might be the case. Try staticly setting your machine to 192.168.0.3 (I picked 3 at random) and see if you can access 192.168.0.227 or whatever you think the netgear's IP is.
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| Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:18 am |
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Kwang!
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When I statically change my X to 0, the netgear router remains inaccessible. All of the right lights blink, but I cannot access its features. The instructions are here: http://documentation.netgear.com/wg602v4/enu/202-10279-01/pdfs/FullManual.pdfIn this manual, the procedure seems to be that I plug my Netgear directly into my PC via CAT5 cable, and then attempt to go from there. It assumes that I already have a wifi network in place (in this case the Linksys). What would happen if I set the linksys to a 192.168.0.x IP range instead of 192.168.1.x?
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| Wed Nov 02, 2011 11:38 am |
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Tazzaler
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Kwang! wrote: . What would happen if I set the linksys to a 192.168.0.x IP range instead of 192.168.1.x? God I need to refresh my network knowledge but.... In that case with the default C subnet address you'd be on a different subnet which would cause some routing issues.
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CHRiS
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Kwang! wrote: When I statically change my X to 0, the netgear router remains inaccessible. All of the right lights blink, but I cannot access its features. The instructions are here: http://documentation.netgear.com/wg602v4/.../pdfs/FullManual.pdfIn this manual, the procedure seems to be that I plug my Netgear directly into my PC via CAT5 cable, and then attempt to go from there. It assumes that I already have a wifi network in place (in this case the Linksys). What would happen if I set the linksys to a 192.168.0.x IP range instead of 192.168.1.x? As long as you also change the DHCP pool (if it's different/not automatically changed) to 0, then everything should work as it is right now. How are you trying to access it's features? what 0 subnet address are you assigning staticly to your machine and what 0 subnet address are you trying to access the netgear on?
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CHRiS
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Oh and if you change the linksys to 0, everyone will lose connectivity till they ask for new IPs from the DHCP server or changed staticly if they were not DHCP acquired.
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| Wed Nov 02, 2011 2:23 pm |
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Kwang!
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So basically, I could do this as long as I got everyone to do an ipconfig? A few of the devices are cellphones. Not sure what the protocol is for those, but everyone else is on Windows as far as I can tell. To connect to the router's features, I am entering the provided IP address. That address is 192.168.0.227 Also, fixed link for manual: http://documentation.netgear.com/wg602v4/enu/202-10279-01/pdfs/FullManual.pdf
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CHRiS
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What are you staticly assigning your computer to? Don't quote me on this, but the DHCP changing might cause automatic refreshes. Phones especially, not sure what the timeout is.
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| Wed Nov 02, 2011 3:08 pm |
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Kwang!
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I have bolded the IP address and Subnet that it specifies I set as static. Netgear wrote: Installing the WG602v4 Before installing the NETGEAR WG602v4 54 Mbps Wireless Access Point, you should make sure that your Ethernet network is up and working. You will be connecting the access point to the Ethernet network so that computers with 802.11b or 802.11g wireless adapters will be able to communicate with computers on the Ethernet network. In order for this to work correctly, verify that you have met all of the system requirements, shown in “System Requirements” on page 2-2. To set up and install your wireless access point: 1. Prepare a computer with an Ethernet adapter. If this PC is already part of your network, record its TCP/IP configuration settings. 2. Turn on your computer and configure the PC with a static IP address of 192.168.0.210 and 255.255.255.0 for the Subnet Mask. 3. Connect an Ethernet cable from the WG602v4 to your PC. 4. Connect the power adapter to the WG602v4 and plug the power adapter into an AC outlet. Verify that • The Power power light goes on. • The Ethernet LED of the wireless access point is lit when connected to a powered on computer. • The Wireless LED should be blinking. And then: Netgear wrote: Selecting Basic IP Settings Options To configure your basic IP settings: 1. From your PC, open a Web browser such as Internet Explorer, Netscape Navigator or Mozilla Firefox. 2. Enter http://192.168.0.227 into your browser window. 3. A login window will display. Enter admin for your User Name and password for the password, both in lower case letters. This login window doesn't appear.
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CHRiS
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Do a ping to 192.168.0.227. If you get nothing, any idea if someone might have changed the IP for it?
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| Wed Nov 02, 2011 4:55 pm |
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Kwang!
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The router itself was second-hand. My roommate picked it up from a randy with a print-out of instructions for turning it into a repeater assuming it was already setup as a router.
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There is absolutely no reason that changing your computer's IP address should take down the entire network UNLESS you're changing it to the default gateway address of the other users, in which case Windows likely won't let you set it to that anyway -- it'd give you an error that you're creating an IP conflict on your subnet. - Set the netgear router to defaults. That can usually be done by hitting a pin-hole in the back for a few seconds and letting it reboot. - Unplug your computer from the Linksys router or turn off your wireless card temporarily. - Set your IP address to 192.168.0.210 - Ping 192.168.0.227 - - If that works, then try to go to http://192.168.0.210- - If that doesn't work find out what your default gateway is and try to ping it - - - If you can ping it, try to go there via http:// - - - If you can't ping it, you probably didn't reset the router properly. Try again. - You should now HOPEFULLY be in the management interface of the Netgear router. - Celebrate.
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Kwang!
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Thanks, I just got back from Sugar's apt so now I can actually make use of all this information.
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Kwang!
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Okay, my wireless usb dongle now recognizes both the Netgear and the Linksys, next is attempting to access the internet by connecting directly to the netgear instead of the linksys.
[edit] Connecting to the Netgear doesn't provide internet access. I did get into the browser utility and set it as a "repeater with wireless client association", and input the MAC address of the other router. I'm guessing that because the DHCP is set for 192.168.0.x on the Netgear and 192.168.1.x on the Linksys that it might be causing connection issues.
It doesn't appear that I can alter the x.x.1.x to x.x.0.x within the Linksys control panel. Any ideas?
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Kwang! wrote: Okay, my wireless usb dongle now recognizes both the Netgear and the Linksys, next is attempting to access the internet by connecting directly to the netgear instead of the linksys.
[edit] Connecting to the Netgear doesn't provide internet access. I did get into the browser utility and set it as a "repeater with wireless client association", and input the MAC address of the other router. I'm guessing that because the DHCP is set for 192.168.0.x on the Netgear and 192.168.1.x on the Linksys that it might be causing connection issues.
It doesn't appear that I can alter the x.x.1.x to x.x.0.x within the Linksys control panel. Any ideas? Edit the IP Address field before editing the Starting IP address field first - I.E 192.168.9.101 or something. Also make sure that there isnt a computer on the network with the .100 address on it that will fubar the whole thing... Try giving it an oddball address like .202 or something. Also you can configure each router by directly hooking it up to your nic on your, you do not have to configure them connected as you want them on the network... in other words you can directly connect them to your pc (one at a time obviously) configure them as you wish then set them up on the network in tandum and it should work. Just remember to give them different ip addresses.
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Kwang!
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@Geno, I cannot edit the IP addresses the way I want to do them. I need to change the 1 in my Linksys IPs to a 0. The utility doesn't seem to allow for that. It only allows for editing the last of the four numbers in an IP.
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