http://theamericansentinel.com/2008/09/ ... obama-now/

http://www.nypost.com/seven/09152008/po ... htm?page=0

Is Obama Illegally and Improperly Interfering in U.S. Foreign Policy?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

Interfering with the United States in its diplomatic efforts is a Logan Act violation. Interfering with war policy treads on even more serious ground, especially since the primary motivation appears to be winning an election without regard to whether it damages our ability to fight the enemy or drives wedges between us and our ally, the elected, representative government in Baghdad.

Discuss

From McCain spokesman Randy Scheunemann:

At this point, it is not yet clear what official American negotiations Senator Obama tried to undermine with Iraqi leaders, but the possibility of such actions is unprecedented. It should be concerning to all that he reportedly urged that the democratically-elected Iraqi government listen to him rather than the US administration in power. If news reports are accurate, this is an egregious act of political interference by a presidential candidate seeking political advantage overseas. Senator Obama needs to reveal what he said to Iraq's Foreign Minister during their closed door meeting. The charge that he sought to delay the withdrawal of Americans from Iraq raises serious questions about Senator Obama's judgment and it demands an explanation.

I'll say this since I see neither sources as reliable AND REPUTABLE

I'd rather have someone like Obama than another Bush (McCain.)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2086724/posts

Looks false to me. Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_11

Here's some truth for you.

http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/John_mccain

Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_04

McCain will probably die before he has a chance to see the elections.

garbage

Dude, it was a joke. Uncyclopedia is a joke site...

Oh really, I thought it was real... Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_25

THANK YOU ...AND I LOOK FORWARD TO AN EXCHANGE OF IDEA'S NOT INSULTS...

Main Entry: idea
Pronunciation: \ī-ˈdē-ə, -ˈdēə also ˈī-(ˌ)dē-ə or ˈī-dē\
Function: noun
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin, from Greek, from idein to see — more at wit
Date: 14th century

1 a: a transcendent entity that is a real pattern of which existing things are imperfect representations b: a standard of perfection : ideal c: a plan for action : design2archaic : a visible representation of a conception : a replica of a pattern3 aobsolete : an image recalled by memory b: an indefinite or unformed conception c: an entity (as a thought, concept, sensation, or image) actually or potentially present to consciousness4: a formulated thought or opinion5: whatever is known or supposed about something <a child's idea of time>6: the central meaning or chief end of a particular action or situation7Christian Science : an image in Mind



Main Entry: insult
Pronunciation: \ˈin-ˌsəlt\
Function: noun
Date: 1671

1: a gross indignity2: injury to the body or one of its parts ; also : something that causes or has a potential for causing such insult <pollution>

I'M SURE YOU DO NOW DROP YOUR CAPS

Besides I never insulted you. A Conserv who can't get their facts straight? NO WAI

Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_06

The insults were to both myself and John McCain.

First the site you promoted is pure <pollution> - See Judis definition of insult. And Ozark thought I did not know the difference... OMG, then you added a statement labeling me a conservative and inferred my facts are incorrect, please show me the errors in my critical thinking so I can learn.

Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_31

Sorry about the caps, it was actually a cut and paste from somewhere else on the internetz... Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_02

I made my statement since your reply seemed really serious, when IMHO it shouldn't have been. I was asking you to chill, not insulting your intelligence. Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_30

McCain is a sensationalist penguin.

Enough said.

all wiki sites are potentially crap, because any idiot can change the information at any time. i never trust them unless i see the information verified from a reputable source.

good thread durango, post more lies!!! haha jk :)

It's all good, I was being sarcastic as anyone with half a brain would know "Uncyclopedia is a joke site..." And I was really never truly offended, as I am not sure if I am really a conservative in the traditional definition or varied. I also have pretty thick skin so to speak, and it takes a really direct and genious insult to rile me, plus considereing this is not a true debate forum but rather n00bfest, I take that into consideration.

I do not wish to spread lies, and if I see the source is the national enquire, star magazine or Us weekly <--- Joke, then I would not post it as even plausible. Furthermore, I did search harder and posted the link I felt debunked the rumor myself. Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_11

BTW, CBS and ABC both carried this article too.

I really wanted to set the tone with the statement that I wish this forum to be more truth and fact related, and not polluted with known farse and or attempts at vile humor.

A little dishonesty and distasteful humor is permitted within reason, after all, this is n00bfest... Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_02

Now to contradict myself just a little, I do think topics like Planet X, or HAARP earthquakes and 9/11 conspiracies would fit well in this forum, as long as they are unproven/unbiased with zeitgeist possibilties.

I will leave name calling allowed, as long as it does not cross the line. Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_19

The real reason I posted this particular artical and posed the question was to educate myself and others as to what the Logan Act is. I did not really think Obama violated it, hence my search to debunk it myself.

I will likely do something similar regarding the Espionage Act of 1917 and the Sedition Acts.

I will also likely start a thread regarding Youtube and Wiki being viable or unviable source information.

Are we having fun yet? Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_08

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Durango 1655 and growing!
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http://www.yellowpages.com/info-LMS5582 ... pibp-nonmi

AKA
Penguin Entertainment-FL Sensational Singers Shows & Music!

One of Cindy McCains many enterprises.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/SHOWBIZ/Movies/ ... index.html

Abe Vigoda is still alive, thank you very much... Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_08

Five posts in a row. Bored much?

yup, always... Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_32