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Obama: I Have More Executive Experience Than Palin

Barack Obama contends that he is more experienced in executive matters than Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin because he has managed his presidential campaign for the past 18 months.

Speaking on a cable news channel Monday night, the Democratic presidential nominee said he is better prepared to handle a disaster like Hurricane Gustav because of his pursuit of the White House.

“Well, my understanding is that Governor Palin’s town of Wasilla has, I think, 50 employees. We’ve got 2,500 in this campaign. I think their budget is maybe $12 million a year. You know, we have a budget of about three times that just for the month. So I think that our ability to manage large systems and to execute I think has been made clear over the last couple of years,” Obama said.

John McCain’s spokesman called the suggestion “laughable.”

“For Barack Obama to argue that he’s experienced enough to be president because he’s running for president is desperate circular logic and its laughable. It is a testament to Barack Obama’s inexperience and failing qualifications that he would stoop to passing off his candidacy as comparable to Governor Sarah Palin’s executive experience managing a budget of over $10 billion and more than 24,000 employees,” said spokesman Tucker Bounds.

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Palin: What does a VP do?

"As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?"

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McCain: I have countless houses, but Obama is the elite and out-of-touch one

"I think--I'll have my staff get to you..." (answering how many houses he owns)

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McCain: Anyone making below $5 million a year is not rich

(asked to define "rich")
"I think if you're just talking about income, how about $5 million?"

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McCain: I'm using a google!

(Asked how he's picking his VP)
"Well, basically, it's a google."

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Just throwing in some quotes to keep it all fair and balanced, a la fox news...

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which is worse?

Obama:
“I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.”

Obama:
"I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon (Watch video clip)

Obama:
"The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person"

Obama:
"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations."

Obama:
Obama told a Portland crowd over the weekend that Iran doesn’t “pose a serious threat to us”–cluelessly arguing that “tiny countries” with small defense budgets can’t do us harm– and then promptly flip-flopped the next day, claiming, “I’ve made it clear for years that the threat from Iran is grave.”

In August 2007, Obama Mistakenly Referred To "The President" Of Canada, When Canadian Government Is Run By Prime Minister

Last May, he claimed that Kansas tornadoes killed a whopping 10,000 people: “In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died — an entire town destroyed.” The actual death toll: 12.


Regarding Biden:

series of blunders by the Delaware Senator that knocked him out of contention. This list includes plagiarism, misrepresentation of his educational achievements, and telling a voter about his big, big brain:
The tape, which was made available by C-SPAN in response to a reporter’s request, showed a testy exchange in response to a question about his law school record from a man identified only as ”Frank.” Mr. Biden looked at his questioner and said: ”I think I have a much higher I.Q. than you do.”

He then went on to say that he ”went to law school on a full academic scholarship - the only one in my class to have a full academic scholarship,” Mr. Biden said. He also said that he ”ended up in the top half” of his class and won a prize in an international moot court competition. In college, Mr. Biden said in the appearance, he was ”the outstanding student in the political science department” and ”graduated with three degrees from college.”

Well, if we measured political IQ, Biden might barely show up on the scale. As Dionne notes later in the article, Biden got one degree from college, a double major. He didn’t get a full scholarship to law school; he got a partial scholarship and received grants to cover the rest. He didn’t graduate in the top half of his class, as he asserted to “Frank”, whose IQ score has been lost in the mists of time. In fact, Biden came in 76th in a class of 85 which isn't even close.

Apparently Barack Obama has chosen a running mate who operates in the fine tradition of the Democratic party; a candidate who huffs and puffs and blows himself up. At one time s/he could get away with it but thanks to the era of instant communications and non mainstream media it will be a bit harder as Hillary Clinton's imaginery excellent adventure dodging gunfire demonstrated.


Much more balanced now Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_02

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Three cheers for chain-mail...to be honest, as offensive as Obama's quote about guns/religion was, you sort of proved it right by citing these fake accusations about his faith as a reason to dislike him.

Meanwhile, there's a criminal investigation under way in Alaska regarding Palin's governorship and alleged corruption.

McCain on Russia/Georgia: "But in the 21st century, nations don’t invade other nations." *giggle*

McCain on the price of gas: "Oh, I don’t remember. Now there’s Secret Service protection. But I’ve done it for many, many years. I don’t recall and frankly, I don’t see how it matters."

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Judicator wrote:
Palin: What does a VP do?

"As for that VP talk all the time, I'll tell you, I still can't answer that question until somebody answers for me what is it exactly that the VP does every day?"

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McCain: I have countless houses, but Obama is the elite and out-of-touch one

"I think--I'll have my staff get to you..." (answering how many houses he owns)

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McCain: Anyone making below $5 million a year is not rich

(asked to define "rich")
"I think if you're just talking about income, how about $5 million?"

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McCain: I'm using a google!

(Asked how he's picking his VP)
"Well, basically, it's a google."

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Just throwing in some quotes to keep it all fair and balanced, a la fox news...

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Yes because a man is successful and owns more than 1 house means hes a total scumbag and doesnt care about his country... I am truly sad for all the idiots who follow this type of shit... Look if you want everyone to be equal then move cuba.... bunch of F*CKING beetnicks.

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lol McCain = "The Man" in the most classic sense. No one likes "The Man" :P

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Genocide wrote:
Yes because a man is successful and owns more than 1 house means hes a total scumbag and doesnt care about his country... I am truly sad for all the idiots who follow this type of s**t... Look if you want everyone to be equal then move cuba.... bunch of f**king beetnicks.


That is not what he said at all, what he did say is that it is absurd that Mccain calls Obama "elitist" while he is the one that is so rich he doesn't even know how many houses he owns. Additionally, you may not agree but I don't consider marrying into a rich family being "successful".

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Yes because a man is successful and owns more than 1 house means hes a total scumbag


No, it doesn't. But cheating on his dying cancerous wife with a younger richer beer heiress does.

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Genocide wrote:
Yes because a man is successful and owns more than 1 house means hes a total scumbag and doesnt care about his country... I am truly sad for all the idiots who follow this type of s**t... Look if you want everyone to be equal then move cuba.... bunch of f**king beetnicks.


And I feel bad for all of those who think that a vote for Obama is a vote for Socialism. Universal Healthcare != Socialism.


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Ozark_52 wrote:
Genocide wrote:
Yes because a man is successful and owns more than 1 house means hes a total scumbag and doesnt care about his country... I am truly sad for all the idiots who follow this type of s**t... Look if you want everyone to be equal then move cuba.... bunch of f**king beetnicks.


And I feel bad for all of those who think that a vote for Obama is a vote for Socialism. Universal Healthcare != Socialism.


oh please there are plenty more reasons not to vote for Obama. Ever heard of william Aires or the weather underground?

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And I feel bad for all of those who think that a vote for Obama is a vote for Socialism. Universal Healthcare != Socialism.


Actually, it is Socialism. Socialism just refers to things that are government controlled and paid for by taxes. We have lots of socialized things, like civil maintenance, police officers, schools, and firefighters. However, the negative connotation that people often associate with Socialism is what I think you're referring to, and what I personally think needs to change.

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And I feel bad for all of those who think that a vote for Obama is a vote for Socialism. Universal Healthcare != Socialism.


Actually, it is Socialism. Socialism just refers to things that are government controlled and paid for by taxes. We have lots of socialized things, like civil maintenance, police officers, schools, and firefighters. However, the negative connotation that people often associate with Socialism is what I think you're referring to, and what I personally think needs to change.

Yeah, I was shooting for the whole "We're gonna be the next Soviet Union" form of socialism that everyone's proclaiming.


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Genocide wrote:
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Yes because a man is successful and owns more than 1 house means hes a total scumbag and doesnt care about his country... I am truly sad for all the idiots who follow this type of s**t... Look if you want everyone to be equal then move cuba.... bunch of f**king beetnicks.


And I feel bad for all of those who think that a vote for Obama is a vote for Socialism. Universal Healthcare != Socialism.


oh please there are plenty more reasons not to vote for Obama. Ever heard of william Aires or the weather underground?


There are plenty of reasons not to vote for both of them. Every recent election has been about picking the worst of two evils.

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Since I play CSS, I should be eligible to be at least a Captain in one of the armed forces, yes? Or, since I can fly a plane on Microsoft Simulator, that makes me a pilot! Oooo! Or since I play Sim City, that qualifies me as a mayor of some major city! ... ... yeah ...

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Coach wrote:
Since I play CSS, I should be eligible to be at least a Captain in one of the armed forces, yes? Or, since I can fly a plane on Microsoft Simulator, that makes me a pilot! Oooo! Or since I play Sim City, that qualifies me as a mayor of some major city! ... ... yeah ...


WOW

Since I wrote two memoirs, have a pretty smile and speak with eloquence, and organized a community in Chicagos Southside in Illinois (which is pretty much all blacks and still failing to this day), I should be able to be Commander in Chief and leader of the free world...

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I don't think the dems want this experience battle, they will lose... Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_25

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Ew, I've gotta agree there, leading a community of "blacks" definitely shouldn't count as leadership.

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Ew, I've gotta agree there, leading a community of "blacks" definitely shouldn't count as leadership.


The message is that he is racist and focus's on programs that benefit mainly blacks and minorities that don't help me or my neighbors out in any way. This is just one of many examples, such as the Global Poverty Act which would send 1 trillion dollars of our tax dollars to Africa basically.

Obama bill: $845 billion
more for global poverty

Democrat sponsors act OK'd by Senate panel
that would cost 0.7% of gross national product

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php? ... geId=56405

And the other part of that message is, the Chicago inner city programs that Obama chose to provide state funding to, never worked, they failed.

http://cbs2chicago.com/politics/barack. ... 35433.html

Obama's Community Service Called Under Question
Altgeld Gardens Resident Who Worked With Senator In 1980s Says He Is Exaggerating His Role

Altgeld Gardens, Chicago
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Altgeld Gardens is a housing project located on the south side of Chicago, Illinois, USA. The residents are 97% African American according to the 2000 US Census.[1] Built in 1945 with 1,498 units, the development consists primarily of two-story row houses spread over 190 acres. It was built to satisfy the need for African American veterans returning from World War II and was originally owned by the federal government, but was granted to the Chicago Housing Authority in 1956. Located in an industrial area on Chicago’s far South side, Altgeld was named after John Peter Altgeld an Illinois governor in the 1890s. As one of the first public housing developments ever built in the United States, it is considered an historic landmark.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi- ... 2081.story

As a state senator from Chicago's South Side, Barack Obama once arranged for a $200,000 state grant to jump-start an urban venture capital fund for a non-profit group run by Rev. Jesse Jackson.

The grant was the very sort of faith-based initiative now at the center of an uncomfortable rift between Jackson and Obama, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee. The money was spent, but the promised investment pool for job-poor neighborhoods never materialized, an example of the mixed record for Obama and other officials in getting results from such programs.

More evidence of Obamas focus on Blacks or Africans.

http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/arc ... ama_a.html

More on Obama and Africa: the Global Poverty ActIn a web piece that published yesterday, I note many of the enlightening conversations about Barack Obama that I had on my recent trip to Africa.

I should add one thing: Kenyans and Tanzanians I spoke with rejected the idea that they support Obama (and they almost universally do) because he will usher in a more favorable foreign policy toward Africa. "All Americans presidents have the same policy on Africa," one man told me. "We do not know if Obama will be different."

In actual fact, however, Africans have reason to be optimistic. Obama is the primary sponsor of the Global Poverty Act (S. 2433), a bill that would commit the United States to "the reduction of global poverty, the elimination of extreme global poverty, and the achievement of the United Nations Millennium Development Goal of reducing by one-half the proportion of people, between 1990 and 2015, who live on less than $1 per day."


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nati ... 9938.story

The day Barack Obama first showed up in the office of Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr., more than 20 years ago, the pastor warned him that getting involved with Trinity United Church of Christ might not be "a feather in your cap."

Obama was a community organizer trying to build support for his group on the South Side of Chicago, and a friendly minister at another church had suggested he'd have more luck with black clergy if he joined a congregation himself.

"Some of my fellow clergy don't appreciate what we're about," Wright told him that day, as Obama would later recount it. "They feel like we're too radical. Others, we ain't radical enough."

Obama ended up joining, a story he tells in his memoirs, and later was influenced enough by Wright to derive the title of a subsequent book, "The Audacity of Hope," from one of the pastor's sermons.

http://www.spectator.org/dsp_article.asp?art_id=13216

As an up-and-coming Chicago lawyer and politician during the 1990s, Barack Obama courted key players in the city's black community -- including his longtime pastor Jeremiah Wright -- to bolster his aspirations for higher office. But after being beaten by Congressman and former Black Panther Bobby Rush in a 2000 congressional primary, Obama realized he that still wasn't widely recognized among black voters. So he sought the support of other black clergymen such as James Meeks, a protege of the Rev. Jesse Jackson who later became a state senator.

Such ties have now proved to be a drag on Obama's effort to win the Democratic presidential nomination, especially after Wright's fiery, sometimes cartoonish, criticism of American foreign policy and support for Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, came to light.

Obama's ties to gay-bashing clergymen, including gospel singer Donnie McClurkin (who claimed he cured himself of homosexuality) and Meeks -- whose church once burned in effigy two gay men adorned in body glitter -- have also forced Obama to reconcile these relationships with his vision of a post-racial, post-ethnic, tolerant America.

The Illinois senator has so far managed to overcome these ties. But his struggles also show one of the biggest difficulties faced by black politicians aspiring for higher political office. The very churches and mosques that have helped them gain power in their gerrymandered, mostly-black wards can hinder them among a more diverse collection of voters less knowledgeable of -- and less tolerant of -- their rhetoric.

Distancing themselves from these power bases also leaves these politicians vulnerable to the charges of racial betrayal. They know that they cannot win office without the less-savory elements of their base. And yet, they may not be able to move up with them in tow.

OBAMA IS JUST the most prominent black politician dogged by such ties. Andre Carson, the Indianapolis political scion now representing the Seventh Congressional District -- one of the most demographically diverse House districts in the nation -- proclaimed that his faith was "multifaceted" after being criticized for his relationship with the Nation of Islam, especially after its leader, Farrakhan, endorsed his candidacy last December.

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FACT CHECK: Obama, His Contributor Rezko, the Slum Landlord Business

For more than five weeks during the brutal winter of 1997, tenants shivered without heat in a government-subsidized apartment building on Chicago’s South Side.

It was just four years after the landlords — Antoin “Tony” Rezko and his partner Daniel Mahru — had rehabbed the 31-unit building in Englewood with a loan from Chicago taxpayers.

Rezko and Mahru couldn’t find money to get the heat back on.

But their company, Rezmar Corp., did come up with $1,000 to give to the political campaign fund of Barack Obama, the newly elected state senator whose district included the unheated building…

The building in Englewood was one of 30 Rezmar rehabbed in a series of troubled deals largely financed by taxpayers. Every project ran into financial difficulty. More than half went into foreclosure, a Chicago Sun-Times investigation has found.
“Their buildings were falling apart,” said a former city official. “They just didn’t pay attention to the condition of these buildings.”

Eleven of Rezko’s buildings were in Obama’s state Senate district….

Rezko and Mahru had no construction experience when they created Rezmar in 1989 to rehabilitate apartments for the poor under the Daley administration. Between 1989 and 1998, Rezmar made deals to rehab 30 buildings, a total of 1,025 apartments. The last 15 buildings involved Davis Miner Barnhill & Galland during Obama’s time with the firm.

Rezko and Mahru also managed the buildings, which were supposed to provide homes for poor people for 30 years. Every one of the projects ran into trouble:

* Seventeen buildings — many beset with code violations, including a lack of heat — ended up in foreclosure.

* Six buildings are currently boarded up.

* Hundreds of the apartments are vacant, in need of major repairs.

* Taxpayers have been stuck with millions in unpaid loans.

* At least a dozen times, the city of Chicago sued Rezmar for failure to heat buildings.

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New rule:

Current Senators don't get to run for President.

They were elected as Senator to be there and speak for their districts, not spend all their time campaigning.

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Durango, can you give me a link to some things Obama wants to "change"? I can't find anything, mostly to lazy to dig it up. But all I hear is change.

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The message is that he is racist and focus's on programs that benefit mainly blacks and minorities that don't help me or my neighbors out in any way.


Unless your neighbors are blacks or minorities.

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