"We keep heaven packed with fresh souls."

hey i'm from florida and i totally agree with that website.

sorry guys i love you all but this southern bullshit has gotta stop somewhwere. he went a little over the edge, but we are all americans and we need to stop this mudslinging bullshit.

i was for kerry. i honestly think now a days people just vote for their party (usually the majority) becaues its easy and our generation is lazy and doesnt want to think and make decisions in a timely and orderly fashion.

i'm a liberal but i'm not a super vegetarian-PETA-athiest.


i think we all need to sit down and cut the bullshit and ask ourselves.. are the people we're electing into office really the best F*CKING people to manage the greatest country in the world?

Heh.

is bush? nah i dont think so. Kerry? Perhaps. All i know is Clinton was the best president we've had in a long time and just because he got a little in the office doesnt automatically make him a bad person..


Every F*CKING man thats straight would say he would have to try extremely hard to not F*CK your secretary. I mean jesus he's the president, he can do anything. Plus hillary's a bitchwhore with a cactus in her vagina but we wont go into that.


Anyway I thought that site was very insightful, he had a lot of evidence to prove his assertions.



Can't wait to read www.fuckthenorth.com though :lol:

ssssshhhhhhh they are listening! lol

Two things:

1) You cynical F*CK. I think not F*CKING your secretary should come naturally to you if you're married and have any F*CKING morals at all. Shit, even if you have a GIRLFRIEND, you shouldn't be F*CKING other people. Bandito has a girlfriend. He's not out F*CKING secretaries. I have a girlfriend. I'm not out F*CKING secretaries.

2) Last I heard, adultery is illegal in the military. I'm pretty sure you can get court-martialed and discharged for it. I think the President should've been held to the same F*CKING standard as Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces.

HE SAID CHECK THE RECORD...!

Sen. John Kerry, Democrat from Massachusetts says he is the strongest Presidential Candidate on National
Defense! He said Check the Record .



Here is what I learned:

He voted to kill the Bradley Fighting Vehicle
He voted to kill the M-1 Abrams Tank
He voted to kill every Aircraft carrier laid down from 1988
He voted to kill the Aegis anti aircraft system
He voted to Kill the F-15 strike eagle
He voted to Kill the Block 60 F-16
He voted to Kill the P-3 Orion upgrade
He voted to Kill the B-1
He voted to Kill the B-2
He voted to Kill the Patriot anti Missile system
He voted to Kill the FA-18
He voted to Kill the F117
He voted to kill every military appropriation for the development and deployment of every weapons systems
since 1988, including a bill for battle armor for our troops.

It is most likely, with Sen. John Kerry as President and Commander in Chief of our Armed Services, that
they will cease to function making it impossible for our country to protect itself.

John Kerry voted to kill all antiterrorism activities of each and every agency of the U.S. Government.

He voted to cut the funding of the FBI by 60%.
He voted to cut the funding for the CIA by 80%.
He voted to cut the funding for the NSA by 80%.

THEN, and this is abhorrent to almost every American Voter -- be you Democrat, Republican or Independent, he
voted to increase OUR funding for U.N operations by 800%!!

Ask yourself ... Is THIS the person you want as President of these United States providing for the
Common Defense of the Nation and be the Leader of the Free World?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
His Voting history can be accessed through Senate voting records. please check it yourself if you think this Republican Party
"B.S."

The above is an accurate summary. Check it out!

Nice research there Jenny. That is crazy. Had he been able to do all that he wanted or has voted for in the past he would have destroyed our nation's security and made it a lot easier and cheaper for those who oppose us to come in.

Pretty crazy huh, Spork?

Yeah really. But i was always for Bush anyway. I may be too young to vote but I do have my own opinions on politics and do actually find ou the real stuff behind the candidates. So that next election I will be able to vote for the right one and also know more behind the speeches.

YAY! I voted for the first time this year, seeing how I wasn't old enough 4 years ago!

And I was a Bush supporter when I wasn't old enought to vote too! Bush all the way~

Gman - I know that dude I have probably more morals than you I was just stating the fact that he did a lot of good things for the country and he was a great president--better than Bush, many many republicans can agree to that. You are right, what i think he did was irrevocably wrong and that he got off easy. I do think he did a lot for the US though.


Jenny - I love you, but its easy to look up 'why kerry is bad' or something similar and copy and paste a bunch of facts. You do, however, have to remember how easily I could do the same. Dirt is meaningless, and to prove it.


I'm not sure about all that, but I do remember watching television and seeing "John kerry voted to slash the intelligence budget by a billion dollars"

ROFL 1 billion dollars against for about 1.5% of the intelligence budget. And frankly I think that's plausible since the damn CIA, FBI, NSA didnt do their F*CKING job (9/11).

Georoge Bush, as soon as he was elected took 2 months off at his RANCH from August to September of 2001.

Let's recap on why we went to war too:
1.) Find, and disarm weapons of mass destruction that there
2.) Liberate Iraqi people and establish democratic form of gov't.
3.) Attempts to find evidence linking Hussein and his minions to 9/11 attacks in "defense against the impenind attack." Hence the "

Also, the 9/11 committee made the statement that there was no correlation between Hussein and the 9/11 terrorits. There were also NO weapons of mass destruction found in Iraq.

Good job, Dubya, you totally made it obvious to why we went to Iraq:

<b><u>Oil</u></b>

Yup we're greedy bastages and its crystal clear why we havent pulled out of Iraq yet. Victor to the spoils...

But anyway google "war on Iraq" and just about every site that pops up is criticizing the war.

Wasn't trying to stir up anything....Just posting like everyone else.

Shade-I love you too, and we all have our opinion.......:)

O.K. - I'm gone to pwn---and try not to kill my teammates since ff is on....hehe,

Bye Bye Now~

About morality: Shade, you're flipflopping like Kerry, man. First you say it'd be hard for any guy to refrain from F*CKING their secretary and then you tell me you probably have more morals than I do. Either you're a cynical and hypocritical fuckhead, or you just don't have your mind made up. The beauty of this country is that you're allowed to be a cynical and hypocritcal fuckhead just as much as I am allowed to be right and cram the truth down your liberal throat whether you like it or not.

Prove to me that Bush went to Iraq for oil. There is no proof. Bush isn't involved in "big oil" like everyone F*CKING things. The Bush family does have a little oil money, but it's not like he's the F*CKING CEO of Exxon or Chevron.

There is NO evidence that Bush went to Iraq for oil. He went there to disarm a F*CKING ruthless dictator and finish what his daddy didn't in 1991.

There is no oil shortage. Gas prices are high right now because of two reasons:

1) People are paranoid. They fear an oil shortage, so the price went up.

2) Oil companies realized they could charge rediculous prices for oil and still have the same huge customer base, so they did.

Gman you need to chill out man you sound really angry and that's exactly what gives you conservatives a bad name.

Well its pretty obvious i'm not gonna go hunt online for textbook facts, but i can give you some pretty clear assertions that logically develop into the fact that Bush went to war, not only for your reasons, but for oil as well.

In a period when we are completely dependent on foreign oil, the Bush family's ties to the Mid East oil execs, particularly the Saudi ones, is disturbing. They've made millions off of their ties to Big Oil, so that's bullshit. The Saudi's saved Bush Jr's company as it was failing. He almost filed for bankruptcy, and then the Saudi oil boys flew in over night and saved him...there's an entire book on it called House of Bush, House of Saudi, go read it.

I'm not going to say Bush's main fuckup was going to war with Iraq for oil, but was going to war period. that it was a F*CKING collossal mistake and it erased decades of foreign policy progress. also, it was pretty much a violation of international law and to begin a policy of pre-emptive war sets dangerous precedents for developing nations with nuclear capabilities like pakistan and india, who can now nuke each other "pre-emptively."

Plus, we just gave them (the terrorists) a concrete reason to attack us now. we have created a haven for terrorists where there wasn't one and gave militant islamists justification for their "jihad." we essentially radicalized moderate muslims in that region.


<u><b>Invading iraq helped bin ladin's cause in a way that he never could have done on his own.</b></u>


And wtf are u talking about of course we have an oil crisis its all over the F*CKING news, we're held hostage to their whims and if we F*CK up, we're pretty much screwed.

but that's not going to happen when we have a president whose ass was saved by the saudis ten years ago.........


Take an economics class, and you'll learn about "Supply and Demand." When there's a low supply, demand is up. And really the only reason oil prices are not in the 3 dollar range is because we're STILL in Iraq because of OIL.




But anyway I can go on and on so its best if you just stop now and say 'well you know your shit shade, and i got owned.

Plus, your first reason for prices going up as no relevence at all.

how the F*CK does paranoia led to gas prices rising, there's no correlation at all.

Also, your gas price increasing bit makes sense, but who exactly do ya think owns this big oil conglomerate coprorations? Rich, greedy, republicans. Who will aid bush till the day they die? THEM BECAUSE BUSH IS IN IRAQ FOR OIL. IF WE HAVE OIL BIG $$$$ FOR OIL COMPANIES. And if they have oil, Bush has money and support of the upperclass. And more votes for him and so on and so forth.

I remember reading a study, I don't know if it's true anymore, but we are actually more dependant on Mexico for oil than any middle eastern country.

And as far as the war, yeah, we fucked up. I don't agree with us invading. But we're there now, and now we have to stay. Imagine how fucked it'll be if we leave. Kerry would have been under too much pressure to withdraw, and he would've, in my opinion. I was a Bush supporter merely because the war needs to be finished.

If we withdraw, first off, military operations and support will be minimized while we are organizing the full on removal. I think of the loss of soldier life that would result from minimalizing certain military operations.

Bush might not be a great president. But as far as this war, yeah he caused it. And yeah, that's fucked. But he's the only one of the two that I trust to see it out to a satisfactory end. Maybe not a noble end. But at least one that keeps our soldiers and some of those people over there in Iraq alive.

uhh bro i dunno about that study we've relied on the saudis for oil since day 1.

and i agree with you about withdrawing but bush has said "mission accomplished" a long ass time ago.

think of every solider that dies there now. for what cause? occupation? its useless now we need to gtfo and let our soliders come home for thanksgiving and christmas.

plus think of all the innocent people getting abducted and killed. its a shame. we just need to realize that we 'did our job' and focus more on domestic matters at hand, not worrying about what every other F*CKER in the world is doing.

I've taken macroeconomics. I know about supply and demand. The oil supply is finite, but we are not anywhere near a shortage.

Hype raised oil prices, not any sort of shortage.

How many soldiers die there a day? How many people are murdered in the United States a day? Compare those numbers, I think we're doing pretty F*CKING well for a heated combat situation.

We didn't radicalize any muslims. Those fucks are raised like that. It's like a crude form of bushido.

I'm not angry at you, or your vagina-like liberal views. You're entitled to them just as much as I'm entitled to my large collection of midget porn.

Yes, there are domestic problems that need taken care of. Yes, policing the globe can be a shitty thing to do sometimes. Yes, the UN is a useless, cowardly organization. Yes, Bush had sack enough to lay the bitchslap down. Yes, lots of people hate Bush.

However, he won the majority vote with RECORD voter turnout.... so all I can say is "ha-ha!"

Merry Christmas. Nothing personal. See you in the servers, sweetie.

in response to your lack of response:

America, I am dissapointed in.


All I can say is

<u>Shade</u>
Kills: 1,667
Deaths: 1,252
K:D Ratio: 1.33
K:M Ratio: 0.71
Kill Streak: 10
Rounds: 2,006
<b>Skill: 1304.37</b>

<u>Gman</u>
Kills: 2,776
Deaths: 2,608
K:D Ratio: 1.06
K:M Ratio: 0.56
Kill Streak: 7
Rounds: 4,198
<b>Skill: 1207.57</b>


Not too shabby considering I've played about as half as many rounds as you.

However, I win with overwhelmingly superior stats.... so all I can say is "ha-ha!"

Happy Thanksgiving. No offense. See you in the servers when I pwn you some more.

He plays on 56k you retard. I'm locking this thread. You had to go and be a F*CK ass about an intelligent political debate. While we're at it here we go. CLEAN MY BALL, SHADE, YOU BITCH!!!

It's harder to keep high stats when you've played as many rounds as I have.

And: there's no way in hell you could get a positive K:D ratio on 56k. F*CK you, you have no idea how good I am so do yourself a favor and shut the F*CK up before you step on the wrong persons toes.