Interesting read, and so is this
http://www.ashbrook.org/publicat/onprin ... mpson.html

"Despite the intellectuals’ psychotic hatred of capitalism, it is the only moral and just social system.

Capitalism is the only moral system because it requires human beings to deal with one another as traders

Capitalism is the only just system because the sole criterion that determines the value of thing exchanged is the free, voluntary, universal judgement of the consumer."

Capitalism.

Socialism doesn't werk.

maybe capitalism only works a little bit longer.

Capitalism has its up and downs.

There are two reasons a person would wants socialism.

Either they are retarded and lazy and do not want to earn life's benefits or they are assholes who want to exploit the retarded and lazy for their own gain.

Socialism is great on paper, but dumb anywhere else. It retards the evolution of individual human beings and in turn retards the evolution of our species as a whole. I don't know about anyone else, but I enjoy humanity evolving and socialism doesn't do that for me.

Sure, at times capitalism is hard knocks and can lead to some shitty situations for people (I mean in the third world; I couldn't give a shit that you don't have free healthcare). However, from birth, it enables you to reach for the stars and make something of yourself as you see fit.

Those Americans...they so lazy!

Yes.

Yes, they are.

The thing about Socialism or any system has has any Marxist ideals whatsoever is that it is more of a sociological system than a clear clean economic system (which for the most part Capitalism is).

It may work on a small scale and in areas where the society is more opt but in the case of America it cannot happen. Sure people would love to have to recreate what Europe has with their Social Democracy hybrid shit but you tell an average American he's going to pay more taxes so everyone around him can have health care (including the lazy fucks) he's going to say F*CK no while the European for the most part won't give two shits as long as he gets the same care and gets other F*CKING shit. (I'm just taking an educated guess of what an average working American would say, I'm not a speaker for the average American man as for the most part I could be considered a Eurofag)

Marx himself though he regarded himself as a Political Scientist, he was for the most part a glorified sociologist.

Though I have I am questioning Kitten's quote (However, from birth, it enables you to reach for the stars and make something of yourself as you see fit.) for the fact that in this day and age it's really hard to hit very high stars that our country was set up to let people hit without being ether crushed or eaten by huge conglomerate corporations.

socialism, capitalism, communism, etc. all have the potential to work. the problem isn't necesarily with the form of government (while certain types are better than others), the problem is with people and society. it's the fact that people are corruptable and abuse power for personal benefit that make these systems fail. the decay of humanity.

Without a profit motive, nobody wins. Communism takes away the profit motive.

The reason we are able to have such a luxurious lifestyle is because their is fierce competition to turn a profit, which drives prices down.

Governments should only try to mitigate the harm done by excessive greed (i.e. dumping toxic waste in the environment to save money).

I think dumping toxic waste into the environment is the least you have to worry when it comes to excessive greed.

The problem with profit is the fact is than creates a struggle in the company's top dogs who manage the production and the people who actually do the production. Basically Mismanagement of profits creates shitloads of troubles when it comes to distance between social classes. That in turn can theoretically makes a more toxic society which in my opinion is shitier than a ducks dying in a shitty pond.

Oh shit! Sun Spots and Solar Flares...

There are bigger things than Capitolism and Socialism you should be preparing for.





Here is the answer to all things... Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_02

Did you know a solar flare can make your toilet stop working?

They found that almost nothing is immune from space weather—not even the water in your bathroom.

http://www.spaceweather.com/glossary/sunspotnumber.html

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2006 ... arning.htm

http://science.nasa.gov/headlines/y2008 ... nkyear.htm

the years ahead will produce a burst of solar activity second only to the historic Solar Max of 1958.

That was a solar maximum. The Space Age was just beginning: Sputnik was launched in Oct. 1957 and Explorer 1 (the first US satellite) in Jan. 1958. In 1958 you couldn't tell that a solar storm was underway by looking at the bars on your cell phone; cell phones didn't exist. Even so, people knew something big was happening when Northern Lights were sighted three times in Mexico. A similar maximum now would be noticed by its effect on cell phones, GPS, weather satellites and many other modern technologies.

When the belt is turning "fast," it means that lots of magnetic fields are being swept up, and that a future sunspot cycle is going to be intense. This is a basis for forecasting: "The belt was turning fast in 1986-1996," says Hathaway. "Old magnetic fields swept up then should re-appear as big sunspots in 2010-2011."

Like most experts in the field, Hathaway has confidence in the conveyor belt model and agrees with Dikpati that the next solar maximum should be a doozy. But he disagrees with one point. Dikpati's forecast puts Solar Max at 2012. Hathaway believes it will arrive sooner, in 2010 or 2011.

"History shows that big sunspot cycles 'ramp up' faster than small ones," he says. "I expect to see the first sunspots of the next cycle appear in late 2006 or 2007—and Solar Max to be underway by 2010 or 2011."

Who's right? Time will tell. Either way, a storm is coming.


http://www.spaceweather.com/glossary/su ... 92jpdnora3

Data points go all the way back to 1755, so you can investigate the relationship between solar activity and many historical events: Do stocks crash during solar minimum? (Some people think so.) Did NASA send astronauts to the Moon during Solar Max? How do sunspots affect the length of mini-skirts? You will find many interesting coincidences!!!1ONE!

I found it interesting to pick my birthday and then click on each succeeding year and watch how the wave line moves acrosss the chart. But more interesting is how low it gets in 2009. Check April 1913 and see how low it was then. Also check out how when the solar max starts, it shoots up really fast, not gradually.

2012 here we come. Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_02

This thread has been Durangoed!!! Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_37

That's definitely a problem with capitalism as well. It's called misalignment of incentives (or the principal-agent problem) and can be easily cured if CEO's are forced to take a large share of their compensation in stock options, which in turn forces them to have an ownership stake in the company. They will want that stock price to go up if they want to make any decent amount of money. And the only way that stock will go up is if they manage the company well.

A lot of CEO's these day's (agents) have no ownership stake in large corporations and therefore may not act in the best interest of the company. So whatever stock you buy, make sure the CEO has a large chunk of stock options!

That could be part of the solution, another part could be to limit the size of corporations even more so than the government does now. There is no reason why a company shouldn't be able to go under without causing massive economic repercussions across the entire economy (AIG). Although the downside to this would be that there is a possibility companies will leave this country to another one in order to avoid being limited.

Although it was a concern of many before the recent economic crisis it should be even more apparent now that big business needs to be watched very very closely. The size of the corporations should be limited even more now that we can actually see what happens when they get greedy.

"Causing massive economic repercussions" is pure propaganda. Sure it might be bad in the short term, but in the long term, if failures are allowed to fail, only good things come out of it.

The problem is, government gets in the way and bails these companies out, rewarding their horrible mistakes and permitting to keep making them in the future. Get out of the way government and let these "too big to fail" companies fail.