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Lawsuit questions Obama's eligibility for office

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Philip J. Berg, Esquire, the Attorney who filed suit against Barack H. Obama challenging Senator Obama’s eligibility to serve as President of the United States, filed a Motion for Extensive and Expedited Discovery including the Depositions of Barack Obama and Howard Dean, Chairman of the Democratic National Committee [DNC] with a Special Master in the case of Berg vs. Obama, Civil Action No. 08-cv-4083, on 09/09/08. Berg stressed to the Court the urgency of this case as, we the people, are heading to a “Constitutional Crisis” if this case is not resolved forthwith.

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He has received about $2,500 in donations to help support the legal action.

Berg, a former Pennsylvania deputy attorney general and Montgomery County Democratic Party chairman, was prepared for an onslaught of e-mail messages and phone calls attacking him. However, the opposite has occurred.

"I'm totally amazed by the positive responses we're getting," he said.

His office received more than 600 phone calls after the public got wind of the suit, and he's been interviewed on about a dozen radio talk shows.

Though the litigation has its adherents, many readers posting comments at The Times Herald's web site, www.timesherald.com, were flabbergasted.

Berg is called a "Nutbar Supreme" in the Screw Loose Change blog that dubbed him the winner of its "Who the biggest kook in 9-11 Denial?" contest.

Berg filed a motion in federal court for a temporary restraining order Aug. 21 asking a judge to bar the Illinois senator from continuing his presidential run until he shows a complete "vault version" of his 1961 Hawaii birth certificate.


The following day, Judge R. Barclay Surrick denied the motion. But the case is still alive.

On Thursday, Obama's senate office and the Democratic National Committee in Washington were both served with legal papers in Berg vs. Obama, Berg said. The DNC and Federal Election Commission are co-defendants in the case.

The U.S. Attorney's Office in Philadelphia accepted service of legal documents on behalf of the FEC on Aug. 22, according to a press release issued by Berg's office.

Berg said a "Texas gal" came to him about the birth certificate claim, suggesting that he was the only lawyer with enough chutzpah to take on the case.


What happens if Obama is removed as the Democratic Party nominee

Friday, 29 August 2008 00:06 administrator We are receiving many emails asking what happens if in fact Senator Obama is forced to step down or is removed as the Democratic Nominee. For this reason, we have posted the Democratic National Comittee's 2008 Call Rules and
Regulations pertaining to replacement of a Democratic Nominee.

In particular, page 19, Section "G" states:

G. Filling a Vacancy on the National Ticket: In the event of death, resignation or disability of a nominee of the Party for President or Vice President after the adjournment of the National Convention, the National Chairperson of the Democratic National Committee shall confer with the Democratic leadership of the United States Congress and the Democratic Governors Association and shall report to the Democratic National Committee, which is authorized to fill the vacancy or vacancies.

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Berg is a douche.

He was on Coast to Coast AM a couple of weeks ago and someone asked him if he would stake his whole reputation on this case and all he could do was clam up and give off the impression that he wasn't confident enough in the evidence.

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Agree that Berg has a seriously bad reputation for crap cases...

I did read the case outline and it does appear thier may be an actual case... Guess we will let the legal system figure this one out.

What I am amazed at is that the main stream media is not reporting on Obamas connections (Chicago neighbors, Ayers living room parties with Bernadine Dohrn with Barack and Michelle, donating to and hosting his first fundraiser, being board members together for several years and basically good chums bashing whites in private in the Chicago hood via Black Liberation theology) with Ayers, and Jesse Jackson and Black Panther Bobby Rush and the liberal circles dominating Hyde Park politics. Do you know who Michelle Obamas best friend is? with all this info it is easy to see why Obama gravitated and attended Reverend Wrights church and saw nothing wrong with his racist and American bashing rants. He has now become nothing more than a democratic puppet who will say and do anything to obtan the ultimate seat of power so he can "change" America.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obama%E2%8 ... ontroversy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party


But I digress, why does the media not report on this lawsuit, but instead finds troopergate a compelling newsworthy find. When I look at the trooper issue, it appears that this trooper should have been fired and I am amazed he is still on the job today. And recently bashing Palin's comments in church regarding a task from god... I think Newt sums it up well in this videoclip.

http://www.foxnews.com/video2/video08.h ... index.html

The Hypocrisy is appaling, Obama crying "Enough" and that he was not going to engage in smear politics and take the high road and he is tired of the McCain campaign using sound bites and snipits out of context when Obama and his campaign commit the same offenses that he accuses of McCain, and now vows even more attacks. Bad judgement... Who took the cheap shot first? I think Hillary really started it with the 3Am calls, but Obama took the first swing at John with his 100 years in Iraq stunt. John went on defense which lead to his now dominating offense. He is a ready to lead. Obama is not. I found this blog sumed it up pretty well.

Stan Klein5:33AMSep 13th 2008
As I type this commentary, I recognize that I am from a generation which got along fine without computers. As a matter of fact, our math ,reading civics,historical knowledge and analytical skills, required hard work, to keep sharp. Some of the brains of today, are hardly as challenged! When you don't use something, you lose it!
McCain flew combat jets,when computers were not as important as they are today. Did that make him an inferior pilot? Some of the greatest pilots whoever flew aircraft, did not use computers. A Lindbergh, Rickenbacker, Von Richhoften. Moreover, the great chess masters are still able to give computers a run for their money. Great navigators sailed across the oceans without even uses compasses, relying upon the stars. The human brain is absolutely the most complex of machines.
I realize that computers have added positively to the quality of my life. However, most of you who are younger than I, can run circles around me, with your computer skills. Thus, I might hire you, if I can trust your moral compass, and your judgment to advise me on computer use. Why pit young against old? The Chinese who really value education, value family and their older citizens, far more than we. The Chinese have been civilized for 5000 years. The U.S has only been around for about 230 years.
My point is that Obama will fail, mocking McCain's
shying away from computers. You can hire others for that purpose. This shows very bad judgment on Obama's part. It also points out what an elitist he is. One must have the judgment from the past, a knowledge of basics in math, history, economics, reading skills etc, to even know that what they read on line is true.
Don't buy this idiotic concept that computer skills are a necessity! We got along for thousands of years depending upon our brains!
Obama is dead wrong on his latest track!

Stan Klein5:32AMSep 13th 2008
Simple Choice: Chamberlain='s Obama McCain/Palin=='s Churchill. The analogy is relevant on this September Day!
I report, you decide!
Stan Klein5:32AMSep 13th 2008
Teressa:
If you read, listened, or watched anything but the liberal juvenile pap, that you think informs you, you would be shocked;
I will start with a couple of appetizers. 1. Did you know that Saddam Hussein harbored perpetrators of the
1993 WTC bombing? Do you remember this act of war against the U.S? Are you even old enough to remember this incident?. 2.Did you know that both Iran in 1980, and Israel attacked Osiris? Do you know what Osiris was?
3. Did you know that Bill Clinton signed the finding to get rid of Saddam Hussein, not Bush? 4. Do you know that ever since the Carter Administration pushed for a banking Act, called the Community Reinvestment Act, banks have been force to lend money to people, who might not be able to repay it? 5. Do you know that both Parties voted for , and Clinton signed a $500,000 tax exclusion on the capital gains of a primary residence in 1996. Do you know what capital gains is? This likely helped caused the current boom and bust of residential property. Do you know what a boom is? Do you know what a bust is? Can you conceive that Obama, because of his socialist ideaology is a BUST! Socialism does not work!
6. Did you know that 6% unemployment is traditionally low? 7. Do you know that many countries have elected Bush like figures? I cite three Sarkozy, Berlusconi, and Merkel. You probably could not identify these people, without cheating. 8. Do you know that Obama is opposed to poor kids going to schools, that would compete with failed public schools? Real educated people would threaten the Democrat Party. many rich liberals send their kids to private schools, or home school them. Yes, I know Republicans do the same. The public schools are failing badly, largely due to a lack of discipline, and the destruction of more realistic vocational education Most people will never be brain surgeons!
Bottom line Teressa, is that you think that you know a heck of a lot more than you do!
I'll give you another Social studies lesson later.
Obama is your worse nightmare.
We older people are not going to be able to clean up your mess. Think very carefully before voting for this unprepared, lying, media created, socialist, appeasing demagogue!
Do you even know what a demagogue is? Do you know what an appeaser is? I going to pose one very difficult question to you. What is derivative?
Go and do some work, and make a mature informed decision!
Stan Klein5:33AMSep 13th 2008
Beyond:
You live in the idealistic dream world, of many a 25 year olds. You spew diatribe that probably brought the Roman Empire down. Read Gibbon, it still applies! When the Empire fell, do you honestly feel that the Visigoths or the Huns were any better?
I once thought as you! The world does not work in the manner that you fantasize, that it could. This is not about racism, sexual orientation, hate, love, or religion. This is about survival in an amoral cruel world.
I wrote a letter to another child like figure named Teressa. Feel free to take me on in serious debate, about my comments above, or about Teressa's thinking.
You youngsters haven't lived long enough to get it.
There is an old saying. If you are not a liberal and idealogue at 25, you haven't a heart. If you are not a conservative at age 50, you haven't a brain.G-d grant me the serenity to accept the things that I am unable to change, the courage to change the things that I am able to change, and the wisdom to know the differences. The wisdom takes a lifetime! That is why McCain is the logical choice!
I wish that wisdom came with youth. Alas, it does not.
Safety first boys and girls. Al Qaeda, Hezbollah, Hamas, and the Moslem Brotherhood are amoral Barracuda,who will kill you despite your best efforts to placate them. You simply don't appreciate this great nation of freedom that you have.
The envisioned Caliphate is a total nightmare!
You are so much better off with McCain/ Barracuda from Alaska, than the totally unprepared Obama!

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Word of the day.

Demagogy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demagogue

refers to a political strategy for obtaining and gaining political power by appealing to the popular prejudices, emotions, fears and expectations of the public — typically via impassioned rhetoric and propaganda, and often using nationalist or populist themes.

As George Bernard Shaw said: "But though there is no difference in this respect between the best demagogue and the worst, both of them having to present their cases equally in terms of melodrama, there is all the difference in the world between the statesman who is humbugging the people into allowing him to do the will of God, in whatever disguise it may come to him, and one who is humbugging them into furthering his personal ambition and the commercial interests of the plutocrats who own the newspapers and support him on reciprocal terms."[

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DurangoKiD wrote:
Word of the day.

Demagogy


I see your Demagogy and raise you a Myrmidon.

Quote:
a loyal follower ; especially : a subordinate who executes orders unquestioningly or unscrupulously


Tattoo that definition on your brain and walk down the street.

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AngryKitten wrote:
DurangoKiD wrote:
Word of the day.

Demagogy


I see your Demagogy and raise you a Myrmidon.

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a loyal follower ; especially : a subordinate who executes orders unquestioningly or unscrupulously


Tattoo that definition on your brain and walk down the street.


I see your Myrmidon and raise with Populism... (one raise left)

Populism is a discourse which supports "the people" versus "the elites". Populism may involve either a political philosophy urging social and political system changes and/or a rhetorical style, deployed by members of political or social movements competing for advantage within the existing party system.

Academic and scholarly definitions of populism vary widely. "To each his own definition of populism, according to the academic axe he grinds,"

One of the latest of these is the definition by Daniele Albertazzi and Duncan McDonnell who, in their volume Twenty-First Century Populism, define populism as pitting "a virtuous and homogeneous people against a set of elites and dangerous ‘others’ who are together depicted as depriving (or attempting to deprive) the sovereign people of their rights, values, prosperity, identity and voice" [4].

Recent scholarship has also discussed populism as a rhetorical style; as such, the term "populist" may be applied to proponents of widely varying political philosophies. Leaders of populist movements in recent decades have claimed to be on both the left and the right of the political spectrum, while some populists claim to be neither "left wing," "centrist" nor "right wing."

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had to search a little, but I found out what Osiris is about.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S.-Iran_relations

http://www.metimes.com/Opinion/2008/08/ ... tion/6665/

http://www.spacewar.com/upi/2004/1018-1 ... lysis.html

I wonder if Obama knows his history?

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durango, your posts make me want to undergo surgery so i can marry you :)

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I SEE ALL OF YOUR WORDS AND RAISE YOU ASSASSINATION

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He's a Hawaiian citizen.

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Berg also filed suits against Bush and Cheney claiming they had advanced knowledge of the 9/11 attacks.

Also, that they are actually Elvis and Tupac.

He's posted documents on that obamacrimes website, but he admits that he "doesn't know where they originated". I'm pretty convinced?

Also: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23415028/
In reality, however, they're both eligible.

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Touche,

"Congress has specifically provided that anyone born there of U.S. parents, as he was, is a citizen."

But there is no actual lawsuit in the McCain case. And I think the circumstances are quite a bit different as Obamas parents were not both US citizens and his mothers US citizenship is called into question? along with all sorts of other alleged facts, like Obama was actually born in Kenya and only his fathers name is on the certificate who is not a US citizen... A much different scenario I would say

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I'm still uncertain as to what role or knowledge the Gov actually had in everything from Pearl Harbor to 9/11, so maybe those are not frivolous suits? Don’t know bout that yet, but it does seem that the government definitely hides stuff.

see youtube series by David Icke (I suggest you watch 6/16 and 6/17 segments, that would be enough information to clarify who, to a degree, is running the show.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH5RQOzc ... C3&index=5

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Durango, you have way too much time on your hands.

Stop reading the news, reading blogs, and watching youtube videos. Go outside and drink a beer. Shoot somebody. Slap a woman. Do something productive.

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Gman wrote:
Durango, you have way too much time on your hands.

Stop reading the news, reading blogs, and watching youtube videos. Go outside and drink a beer. Shoot somebody. Slap a woman. Do something productive.


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Gman wrote:
Durango, you have way too much time on your hands.

Stop reading the news, reading blogs, and watching youtube videos. Go outside and drink a beer. Shoot somebody. Slap a woman. Do something productive.


Been there done all that... now what? Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_20

remember I've been on this earth almost 15000 days. And for the first 9000 or so, they didn't have computers, the internet and 500 cable channels. I lost count of the parties, drinks, and gun shots. I got to start drinking (legally) 4 years earlier than most of you (18) and my generation invented the skateboard, BMX, model rockets and cox cars. When I went out to play, we actually blew shit up and caught things on fire. Heehe. Kids today can only aspire to do what I did but could never match it as you won't find many creeks left clean enough to swim in and the tire swings have all been torn down. Besides, I find learning is one of the best past times and saving America from the liberals and islamic holy war a worthy cause. Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_19

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DurangoKiD wrote:
"Congress has specifically provided that anyone born there of U.S. parents, as he was, is a citizen."


Yeah, that's true, but the issue at question is that a US president must be a "natural born" citizen, which isn't clearly defined. But it seems like the framers just meant natural born as opposed to naturalized.

Anyways, the GOP isn't dumb. If there was a legitimate question about Obama's citizenship, someone from their campaign would have jumped on it as soon as he declared his intention to run. It says something that it's a bitter (rightfully or not) Clinton supporter who's the first to bring it up.

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