My brother and I are having a debate about news stations. Which is your favorite? I didn't include MSNBC on purpose, that'd be "other" for all you freaks who would ask.

anybody who watches fox news needs to be slapped, poked in the eye, and karate chopped in their throat.

Anybody who watches JUST (or even primarily, probably) either of those isn't getting a good perspective. You'd be better off reading a variety of sources on google news, but if it's gotta be TV at least watch both.

when does fox news ever give a good perspective?

Mmm...when did I say they did?

my bad i read it wrong Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_37

i dont think anyone should ever watch fox news.

The Daily Show and Colbert Report are the only news sources I need Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_02

I also look at some of the headlines that make the BBC, Yahoo, and whatever scrolls across MSN Messenger. I just don't have it in me to watch TV news, especially when it's quicker for me to just read it on the internet. The Daily Show and The Colbert Report are exceptions though, as they are hilarious (but obviously not the best news source in the world, lol).

You guys act like Fox is all run by one-sided Nazis. I always watch Fox in the morning. I'm pretty sure traffic, weather, and local happenings aren't in anyway biased. Fox primetime news however, F*CK that.

I watch the "LOCAL" fox station but nothing else. I try to get most of my stuff online, at least this way I get get both sides of the lies.

pbs is very unbiased, and cnn is pretty unbiased as well. most other US news sources are biased one way or the other.

Fox and Friends in the morning is outstanding. They really get close to the "Fair and Balanced" they lay claim to during every ad. Besides that, they're funny as hell.

Afternoon and evening shows on Fox are tilted so far that it's not funny to call them fair and balanced.

... and Bill O'Reilly hates everyone and everything on earth.

I like to switch back and forth between Fox and Friends in the morning, and Robin Meade on CNN Headline News. Fox gets me laughing and CNN makes my peepee tingle. That usually give me the story with a tilt in both directions so I can deduce the truth is in the middle somewhere.

Except for the past 12 months, during which ALL news stations and bored me to TEARS with non-stop election coverage, referring to every box of kleenex and toothpick in every campaign.

ROFL - CNN = Democrats Covering Democrats!

I had watched CNN primarily until just a few weeks ago when the DNC was held and Palin was announced. Then it became so blatantly obvious that the coverage was loaded with left liberal biased anchor spew and the hypocrisy was and still is out of control and off the chart. And I am not the only one who noticed. Here is one of my unbiased sources on who is the ratings leader.

http://www.journalism.org/node/507

Excellence in Journalism is a research organization that specializes in using empirical methods to evaluate and study the performance of the press. It is non partisan, non ideological and non political.

Fox Leads the Ratings Pack

By either measurement, one thing is clear: Fox News channel was the ratings leader in 2005. Wherever one looks, more than half the cable news audience was watching Fox News.

In the evenings, or prime time, an average of 1.59 million people watched Fox News in 2005, up from 1.47 million in 2004. That is more than double the 725,000 watching CNN, whose median prime time viewer ship dropped by 90,000, from 815,000 in 2004. MSNBC had a median prime time audience in 2005 of 335,000 viewers, slightly less than the 341,000 viewers a year earlier.

During the day, 901,500 people watched Fox News at any given moment. The median audience of CNN was less than half that number, at 448,500. Roughly half that number again watched MSNBC— 229,500 (an increase for the channel from 224,000 a year earlier).

Where did Fox News’s growth come from? The evidence suggests two places.

First, Fox News has eaten into its competition’s audience. Over the past four years, its share has been growing at a faster rate than the cable audience has, indicating that it is taking viewers away from the other channels.

Yet Fox’s increases are greater than the losses suffered by CNN and MSNBC. So some of its growth also came from new viewers, people who were not watching cable news at all. That growth appears to derive mostly from new distribution as Fox News was added to cable systems that previously did not have access to the channel, rather than from people who chose to stop watching non-news alternatives.3

Ratings vs. Cume: CNN Still ‘Unique’

Despite the ratings data, CNN has always made the argument that it is more popular over all than Fox News because more people, or unique viewers, watch it. This remained true in 2005 as well, though the gap was narrowing.

This number, called “cumulative audience” or “Cume,” is different from the ratings numbers discussed above. Ratings measure how many people in total watched a channel at any given moment. Cume refers to how many different people watch the channel over time — equivalent to the online industry’s “unique visitors.” Viewers are counted as part of a TV channel’s Cume measurement if they tune in for six minutes or longer (they are averaged over the course of a month).

CNN argues that Cume figures are better indicators of overall popularity for cable news.


I could provide you with many many links to partisan sites who will attempt to show that Fox is nothing more than a cult of conservatives and that Fox distorts the ratings info by not reporting the cume versus unique ratings. That argument might have held water back before cable TV when only 3 major networks existed. Which brings me to Bidens huge blunder...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUdQ5OjG ... re=related

Can you imagine if Sarah had made this gaff!, OMG!!! Their would be a witch hunt.

Most media outlets and Hollywood bi-products are so far in the tank with Obama it's outrageous and frankly embarrassing.

As you can see from my post, I search the internet high and low, international news outlets and blogs alike. I read and read and watch and watch and I am no dummy. Almost every poll and ratings results shows that I am with the majority who know bullshit from politics. It is appalling to see the public duped with media spin. Fox calls all the other outlets out on thier biased coverage and rightly so.

All of you who fall for this biased and distorted media coverage deserve what you get. Have you been watching this coverage of the financial crisis and how the liberal media would have you believe the GOP played the bigger role in causing and or not preventing this crisis. OMG. Let's debate!

I will say that politics aside, their is no doubt that CNN has better sets, formats and non-election issue coverage and was and has been the leader in news coverage much like MTV was the original leader of the music video era, but just as MTV lost it's way, so has CNN, specially when it comes to politics and keeping it fair and balanced. The political desires and positions of the CNN anchors bleeds so far over into the coverage it's sickening. And thier new slogan should be changed to loads of bias and full of bull... Did I mention Robin Meade is HOT!!!

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-sh ... -democrats

Below is a list of Democratic CNN anchors and correspondents who are covering the Democratic National Convention (there are no registered Republicans):

Anderson Cooper is a registered Democrat.
Jeanie Moos is a registered Democrat.
Gloria Borger is a registered Democrat.
Jeanne Meserve is a registered Democrat.
Suzanne Malveaux is a registered Democrat.
Soledad O'Brien is a registered Democrat.
So when Anderson Cooper turns to Gloria Borger (who is sitting next to former Democratic operative Donna Brazile) for perspective on how things are going at the Democratic Convention, bear in mind that viewers are watching two people who are likely to vote for the Democratic candidate for president.

For the record, MSNBC's Chris Matthews, Andrea Mitchell, Mika Brzezinski and Monica Novotny are all registered Democrats as well.

it's equally true that Fox's biggest super-star, Bill O'Reilly, is not a mainstream Republican, but a registered Independent. He regularly charges the oil companies with price-gouging and attacks big business for squashing the little guy. Who can say what host Greta Van Susteren's politics are? She mostly covers the crime-of-the-day stories. Geraldo Rivera has always been liberal on most issues, with the exception of being a strong supporter of the military and stiff penalties for sex offenders.

Liberal commentators go in and out of the Fox studios all over America, every day — some of them, like host Alan Colmes and news analyst Marvin Kalb, and Eleanor Clift affiliated with the channel. There's no doubt, of course, that Fox News is closer to mainstream America than CBS, ABC, NBC or CNN. But, after all, that was its founding mission.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/2 ... 92743.html

BBC for me

CNN can just as well be called Conservative bias - here's my Durango post to show it:

http://mediamatters.org/issues_topics/tags/cnn

Media Matters for America (or MMfA) is a 501(c)(3) non-profit organization founded in 2004 by journalist and author David Brock. Media Matters for America describes itself as "a web-based, not-for-profit, progressive research and information center dedicated to comprehensively monitoring, analyzing, and correcting conservative misinformation in the U.S. media." Media Matters for America defines "conservative misinformation" as "news or commentary presented in the media that is not accurate, reliable, or credible and that forwards the conservative agenda."[1]

* CNN contributor West misled on Raines' and Johnson's purported roles in Obama campaign This article has video.
Monday, September 22, 2008
* In article about Dem criticism of Lieberman, CNN.com did not report he broke RNC speech pledge
Thursday, September 18, 2008
* CNN's Roberts failed to challenge Romney on taxes falsehood This article has video.
Thursday, September 18, 2008
* Applebee's and green tea redux: Reuters' Decker said Biden's "French cuffs" could cause problems for him "connect[ing] with voters" This article has video.
Monday, September 15, 2008
* CNN's Foreman falsely claimed McCain was "getting Barack Obama's record right" on military spending This article has video.
Wednesday, September 10, 2008
* Media outlets scrutinizing Palin's "Bridge to Nowhere" statement haven't noted her claim that "I told the Congress 'Thanks, but no thanks' " is a lie This article has video.
Wednesday, September 10, 2008
* CNN's Bennett falsely said McCain "hasn't recanted his position on ... McCain-Kennedy" immigration bill This article has video.
Friday, September 5, 2008
* Tipping the scales: Cable news channels dedicate more coverage to RNC's scheduled programming during peak hours than to DNC's
Friday, September 5, 2008
* Glenn Beck, Debra Saunders falsely claimed Palin supports benefits for same-sex partners of state employees This article has video.
Monday, September 1, 2008
* CNN's Velshi falsely claimed "no oil shed into the Gulf of Mexico" because of Hurricane Katrina This article has video.
Sunday, August 31, 2008
* Media affix "maverick" label to Palin as well This article has video.
Friday, August 29, 2008
* Ignoring McCain attacks on same day, CNN's Harris called McCain's congratulatory ad "a nice touch" This article has video.
Friday, August 29, 2008
* With morning announcement of Palin pick comes morning sexism on cable news This article has video.
Friday, August 29, 2008
* CNN's Castellanos falsely claimed Obama never held a job for four years in his life This article has video.
Friday, August 29, 2008
* Media uncritically report McCain camp's assertion that Obama "voted against funds for American troops in harm's way"
Friday, August 29, 2008
* Minutes after Begala debunked the falsehood, CNN caption claimed Casey "was denied a speaking role ... because he opposed abortion rights" This article has video.
Wednesday, August 27, 2008
* NPR, CNN repeat falsehood that Casey was denied speaking role at '92 Dem convention "because of his opposition to abortion rights" This article has video.
Tuesday, August 26, 2008
* CNN's King, Blitzer selectively cited poll showing less support for Obama among Clinton backers This article has video.
Sunday, August 24, 2008
* CNN's Schneider asserted that Lieberman speech at RNC could draw Jewish voters, but did not mention polling showing low approval among Jews This article has video.
Friday, August 22, 2008
* In Obama Revealed special, CNN's Malveaux baselessly suggested Obamas got special deal on house This article has video.
Thursday, August 21, 2008

The relevant thing to keep in mind when watching national FOX or CNN or other outlets is that the vast majority of these shows feature news "commentators", not news "reporters".

As long as you're willing/able to sort out the facts from the opinion, any show can be educational.

I watch Fox because CNN supports AFRICAN AMERICANS.

And the truth is that in the morning, you're just hungry for some breakfast.

lou dobbs on cnn in the afternoons is great, because he actually stands up for the best interests of the american public. at least it seems that way to me.