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http://clarionfund.org/

http://www.obsessionthemovie.com/

http://www.radicalislam.org/

I recieved a copy of "Obsession the movie" in the mail yesterday. Not sure why and who paid for me to have it, but you should all check it out and wake up... My neighbor got one too, did anyone else?

Mission is to educate Americans about issues of
national security.

Our primary focus is on the most urgent threat of radical Islam. By utilizing the following three mediums, Clarion Fund is helping Americans understand that
the mainstream media is not adequately conveying the reality of radical Islam:

WTFU = Wake The F*CK Up Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_23

Buy a gun and be prepared to fight for your freedoms or die a kafir/koffer/infidel. Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_38

"The only thing necassary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing..."

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/infidel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infidel

Sharia, or Islamic religious law, has a dark side. Sharia dictates inequality between men and women, and second class citizenship for non-Muslims

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,422661,00.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kly7zChv ... re=related

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_t ... ed_Kingdom

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"SUICIDE OF THE WEST" IS LIBERALISM ISLAM!

http://www.insightmag.com/Media/MediaMa ... bama_2.htm

Hillary's team has questions about Obama's Muslim background

Are the American people ready for an elected president who was educated in a Madrassa as a young boy and has not been forthcoming about his Muslim heritage?

This is the question Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton’s camp is asking about Sen. Barack Obama.

An investigation of Mr. Obama by political opponents within the Democratic Party has discovered that Mr. Obama was raised as a Muslim by his stepfather in Indonesia. Sources close to the background check, which has not yet been released, said Mr. Obama, 45, spent at least four years in a so-called Madrassa, or Muslim seminary, in Indonesia.

"He was a Muslim, but he concealed it," the source said. "His opponents within the Democrats hope this will become a major issue in the campaign."

When contacted by Insight, Mr. Obama’s press secretary said he would consult with “his boss” and call back. He did not.

Sources said the background check, conducted by researchers connected to Senator Clinton, disclosed details of Mr. Obama's Muslim past. The sources said the Clinton camp concluded the Illinois Democrat concealed his prior Muslim faith and education.

"The background investigation will provide major ammunition to his opponents," the source said. "The idea is to show Obama as deceptive."

In two best-selling autobiographies—"The Audacity of Hope: Thoughts on Reclaiming the American Dream" and "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance"—Mr. Obama, born in Honolulu where his parents met, mentions but does not expand on his Muslim background, alluding only to his attendance at a "predominantly Muslim school."

The sources said the young Obama was given the name Hussein by his Muslim father, which the Illinois Democrat rarely uses in public.


His father was black and came from Kenya. Mr. Obama’s mother, the daughter of a farmer, came from Wichita, Kansas. Mr. Obama's parents divorced when he was two years old. His father returned to Kenya.

Later, Mr. Obama's mother married an Indonesian student and the family moved to Jakarta. Mr. Obama returned to Hawaii when he was 10 to live with his maternal grandparents.

The sources said the background check concerned Mr. Obama's years in Jakarta. In Indonesia, the young Obama was enrolled in a Madrassa and was raised and educated as a Muslim. Although Indonesia is regarded as a moderate Muslim state, the U.S. intelligence community has determined that today most of these schools are financed by the Saudi Arabian government and they teach a Wahhabi doctrine that denies the rights of non-Muslims.

Although the background check has not confirmed that the specific Madrassa Mr. Obama attended was espousing Wahhabism, the sources said his Democratic opponents believe this to be the case—and are seeking to prove it. The sources said the opponents are searching for evidence that Mr. Obama is still a Muslim or has ties to Islam.

Mr. Obama attends services at Trinity United Church of Christ in Chicago’s South Side. However, he is not known to be a regular parishioner.

"Obama's education began a life-long relationship with Islam as a faith and Muslims as a community," the source said. "This has been a relationship that contains numerous question marks."

The sources said Mr. Obama spent at least four years in a Muslim school in Indonesia. They said when Mr. Obama was 10, his mother and her second husband separated. She and her son returned to Hawaii.

"Then the official biography begins," the source said. "Obama never returned to Kenya to see relatives or family until it became politically expedient."

In both of his autobiographies, Mr. Obama characterizes himself as a Christian—although he describes his upbringing as mostly secular.

In “The Audacity of Hope,” Mr. Obama says, "I was not raised in a religious household." He describes his mother as secular, but says she had copies of the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita in their home.

Mr. Obama says his father was "raised a Muslim, but by the time he met my mother he was a confirmed atheist...." Mr. Obama also describes his father as largely absent from his life. He says his Indonesian stepfather was "skeptical" about religion and "saw religion as not particularly useful in the practical business of making one's way in the world ...."

In the book, Mr. Obama briefly addresses his education in Indonesia. "During the five years that we would live with my stepfather in Indonesia, I was sent first to a neighborhood Catholic school and then to a predominantly Muslim school; in both cases, my mother was less concerned with me learning the catechism or puzzling out the meaning of the muezzin's call to evening prayer than she was with whether I was properly learning my multiplication tables."


Did you people hear about Britain? They have adopted some Muslim laws legally. They say it's not a big deal, but this is outrageous. This is only the beginning. They'll start off with this, then watch out. The Muslims are trying to take over the world and you Liberals are welcoming them with open arms by allowing this Obama (who is a Muslim, he said so) to possibly sit in the White House. You're all nuts.
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ISLAM AS A SYSTEM

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond's book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

Islam is not a religion nor is it a cult. It is a complete system. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic and military components. The religious component is a beard for all the other components.
Islamization occurs when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their so-called "religious rights."
When politically correct and culturally diverse societies agree to "the reasonable" Muslim demands for their
"religious rights," they also get the other components under the table. Here's how it works (percentages source CIA: The World Fact Book (2007).

As long as the Muslim population remains around 1% of any given country they will be regarded as a peace-loving minority and not as a threat to anyone. In fact, they may be featured in articles and films, stereotyped for their colorful uniqueness:

United States -- Muslim 1.0%
Australia -- Muslim 1.5%
Canada -- Muslim 1.9%
China -- Muslim 1%-2%
Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%

At 2% and 3% they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs:

Denmark -- Muslim 2%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Thailand -- Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. They will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature it on their shelves -- along with threats for failure to comply.

France -- Muslim 8%
Philippines -- Muslim 5%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago -- Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islam is not to convert the world but to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims reach 10% of the population, they will increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions (Paris -- car burnings, etc.). Any non-Muslim action that offends Islam will result in uprisings and threats (Amsterdam -- Mohammed cartoons).

Guyana -- Muslim 10%
India -- Muslim 13.4%
Israel -- Muslim 16%
Kenya -- Muslim 10%
Russia -- Muslim 10-15%

After reaching 20% expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings and church and synagogue burning:

Ethiopia -- Muslim 32.8%

At 40% you will find widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks and ongoing militia warfare:

Bosnia -- Muslim 40%
Chad -- Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon -- Muslim 59.7%

From 60% you may expect unfettered persecution of non-believers and other religions, sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels:

Albania -- Muslim 70%
Malaysia -- Muslim 60.4%
Qatar -- Muslim 77.5%
Sudan -- Muslim 70%

After 80% expect State run ethnic cleansing and genocide:

Bangladesh -- Muslim 83%
Egypt -- Muslim 90%
Gaza -- Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia -- Muslim 86.1%
Iran -- Muslim 98%
Iraq -- Muslim 97%
Jordan -- Muslim 92%
Morocco -- Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan -- Muslim 97%
Palestine -- Muslim 99%
Syria -- Muslim 90%
Tajikistan -- Muslim 90%
Turkey -- Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates -- Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of "Dar-es-Salaam" -- the Islamic House of Peace -- there's supposed to be peace because everybody is a Muslim:

Afghanistan -- Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia -- Muslim 100%
Somalia -- Muslim 100%
Yemen -- Muslim 99.9%

Of course, that's not the case. To satisfy their blood lust, Muslims then start killing each other for a variety of reasons.

"Before I was nine I had learned the basic canon of Arab life. It was me against my brother; me and my brother against our father; my family against my cousins and the clan; the clan against the tribe; and the tribe against the world and all of us against the infidel". -- Leon Uris, "The Haj"

It is good to remember that in many, many countries, such as France, the Muslim populations are centered around ghettos based on their ethnicity. Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. Therefore, they exercise more power than their national average would indicate.

Obama and 'friends'

Rev Wright
Tony Rezko
Michelle Obama
Louis Farrakhan
William Ayres
Bernadine Dorhn
Rashid Khalidi
Nadhmi Auchi
Frank Marshall Davis
Saul Alinsky
Father Pfleger
Kwame Kilpatrick
Rev Meeks
George Soros
Raila Odingo
Abongo Obama
Black Panthers
Ludacris
Ahmad Yousuf (Hamas)
Fidel, Raul Castro
Hugo Chavez
Kim Jong Il

Change we can 'bereave' in

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Our main threat is islam?

lol

Congrats on funding your own destruction then.


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sorry durango next time post links to the info your post was

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Damn it, accidentally closed what I typed, let me try again.

It's nice that we're now interested in Obama's Muslim background now that he's a candidate. Isn't that what we're supposed to do BEFORE he becomes a front runner? Now we're stuck choosing between these two ass clowns.

As for the film, I haven't seen it and I GUESS I'll look around on google video, for now my opinion is that it's a fear tactic. Why would CNN and Fox News tell us this is a must see, or "one of the most important films of our time."? OMG Zeitgeist! There are plenty of excellent films on how fucked up things are here at home, but instead they seem to be using this film as fear mongering.

Don't mean to go "crazy" on this one, but how is this explainable?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1HPNpxbfX8


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NOTHING IS MORE SCARY THAN TEH TERRORISTS!

http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budget ... t-in-Sight

They hate our freedoms


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OBAMA SOUNDS A LOT LIKE OSAMA TO ME.

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Damn it, accidentally closed what I typed, let me try again.

It's nice that we're now interested in Obama's Muslim background now that he's a candidate. Isn't that what we're supposed to do BEFORE he becomes a front runner? Now we're stuck choosing between these two ass clowns.

As for the film, I haven't seen it and I GUESS I'll look around on google video, for now my opinion is that it's a fear tactic. Why would CNN and Fox News tell us this is a must see, or "one of the most important films of our time."? OMG Zeitgeist! There are plenty of excellent films on how f**ked up things are here at home, but instead they seem to be using this film as fear mongering.

Don't mean to go "crazy" on this one, but how is this explainable?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1HPNpxbfX8




I've seen the 9/11 and London bombing inside job stuff too, the jury is still out on both. I recall several conspiracy theories that have been debunked, like the Lunar missions, Area 51, the world is flat, 9/11 was an inside job. Lady Di and JFK Jr. were murdered. Heathens are winning the war on Christmas. American Idol is rigged. Barack Obama is a radical Muslim. The Secret will make you thin. The Virgin Mary is in the grilled cheese. That’s what it’s like to live inside the mind of the 21st-century conspiracy theorist, who believes that all you have to do is look at the signs and you’ll see what’s really going on.

http://www.gatecreepers.com/entries/exc ... y-theorie/

Myth #1: Conspiracy theories offer a simplistic view of how the world is run.
Myth #2: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof
Myth #3: Conspiracy theories violate Occam's Razor
Myth #4: Conspiracy theorists believe in UFOs / Aliens / Apollo Moon / Holocaust denial
Myth #5: Government conspiracy theories provide false relief from fear of real social problems
Myth #6: Conspiracy theories violate Popper's rule of falsifiability
Myth #7: Governments are unable to cover up their conspiracies
Myth #8: Conspiracies would be quickly exposed by the media
Myth #9: Conspiracy theories are attractive for their entertainment value
Myth #10: Conspiracy theorists repeat their claims no matter how much they are debunked
Myth #11: Conspiracy theories undermine confidence in the democratic system
Myth #12: Conspiracy theories are based on faith
Myth #13: Conspiracy theorists are paranoid and engage in fearmongering
Myth #14: Conspiracy theorists are anti-semitic
Myth #15: Conspiracy theorists give themselves a false academic façade to tell half-truths
Myth #16: Conspiracy theorists are crazy / nutty / kooky / cranky
Myth #17: Conspiracy theories assume the involvement of a large number of people
Myth #18: Conspiracy whistleblowers would be dead if their claims were true.
Myth #19: Conspiracy theories blame evil actors whilst failing to address root causes
Myth #20: Conspiracy theories give a sense of exclusive knowledge
Myth #21: Conspiracy theorists feel powerless and blame the establishment for their failures
Myth #22: Conspiracy theories are reassuring because they give a sense of order
Myth #23: Conspiracy theorists accuse people who disagree with them of being part of the cover-up
Myth #24: The world is chaotic rather than conspiratorial
Myth #25: Conspiracy theorists believe that all aspects of every official story have to be consistent
Myth #26: Conspiracy theory is an 'industry'
Myth #27: Conspiracy theorists dismiss evidence against their arguments as being part of the conspiracy
Myth #28: There have been conspiracy theories about every major historical event
Myth #29: Conspiracy theories are convenient to their proponents because they are impossible to prove
Myth #30: Conspiracy theories gain acceptance because they make sense out of traumatic events by designating scapegoats
Myth #31: People look into conspiracy theories because they bring relief to uncertainty of traumatic events by filling the void
Myth #32: Conspiracy theorists select evidence and fix it according to predetermined conclusions
Myth #33: Conspiracy theorists are political extremists
Myth #34: Conspiracy theorists only look at evidence that confirms their theories
Myth #35: Conspiracy theories can cause insurrections
Myth #36: Conspiracism results in an excessively diverse set of different narratives based on different assumptions
Myth #37: Believing in conspiracy theories makes people become paranoid
Myth #38: Conspirators would be overcome with guilt and confess
Myth #39: Conspiracy theories can only be proven through official acceptance
Myth #40: Conspiracy theories are a waste of time
Myth #41: Conspiracy theories ascribe too often on malice what should be blamed on incompetence
Myth #42: Conspiracy theories appeal because they validate personal biases
Myth #43: People believe in conspiracies because they don't know how things work
Myth #44: People believe in conspiracies because they make them feel empowered
Myth #45: Conspiracy theories appeal to common sense
Myth #46: Conspiracy theories assume that big events cannot result from small causes
Myth #47: Conspiracy theories are based on accumulation of circumstantial evidence rather than a chain of evidence
Myth #48: Conspiracy theorists over-interpret evidence and documents


All I know is the hand writting is on the wall with many years/decades of anti-american hate propaganda in the middle east, with radical muslim schools teaching the youth to kill americans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0ObL2Clh8g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIGg1RQ ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9HDh5KQ ... re=related

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NOTHING IS MORE SCARY THAN TEH TERRORISTS!

http://finance.yahoo.com/banking-budget ... t-in-Sight

They hate our freedoms


All the dems will do is make you jobless and poor and stand in line for healthcare, the terrorist will poisen your water, air and sever your head off. I'm not saying to go and buy duck tape and batteries, I'm telling you to buy a crow bar and hit a headcrab.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Headcrab

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The tape and batteries are nice to have, as long as the batteries are eneloop (Sanyo) rechargeables and you have a good battery charger like the AlphaPower battery charger (BC-900). But the charger wont do you anygood unless you have the solar panel system to charge it.

http://www.altersystems.com/catalog/120 ... -1670.html

And batteries and solar panels wont filter your water so I suggest a time proven method used around the world in impoverished nations.

http://www.britishberkefeld.com/

http://bigberkey.com/

and a good food supply, I recommend

http://www.thereadystore.com/productdet ... CASE-of-24

http://www.thereadystore.com/freezedrie ... ly-10-CANS

and a couple of good crank lights and LED flashlights that work with those batteries you bought. (AAA/AA)

http://www.amazon.com/Illuminator-Power ... pd_sim_e_3

http://www.target.com/gp/detail.html/60 ... v_XPYD0100


Did I mention Guns!!! See my next purchase below!!!

http://www.remington.com/products/firea ... ension.asp

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The Third Jihad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8YHi5Lx7zI

http://www.thethirdjihad.com/

The Third Jihad focuses on an FBI-discovered secret document—the manifesto of the American Muslim Brotherhood. It describes the 'grand jihad' goal of destroying Western civilization from within by infiltrating and dominating North America.

The film reveals the agenda of the radical Muslim leaders in America and provides viewers with an impressively crafted look at the immediate dangers posed.

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We're all going to be jobless and poor, and it has nothing to do with the democrats.

Eventually, China will cut us off and the terrorists will be the last thing on anybody's mind.

WTFU :)


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So true...


But I know all of thier weakness, Iran, China, Pakistan, Afgahnistan and especially Russia (mixed with vodka)

Islamic extremists' love of hardcore porn
http://www.asiansexgazette.com/asg/midd ... news95.htm

So how does a pious Islamic extremist and potential terrorist pass the time? He watches hardcore porn. Investigators found that at least one of two Islamic extremist planning an attack on the US from Canada was in possession of hardcore pornography.

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So how does a pious Islamic extremist and potential terrorist pass the time? He watches hardcore porn. Investigators found that at least one of two Islamic extremist planning an attack on the US from Canada was in possession of hardcore pornography.


Exactly, because the problem isn't with Islam, it's with poverty and a feeling of powerlessness in the Middle East. Islam is just a nice scary word for everyone to slap on the problem.

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Deepslit wrote:
Damn it, accidentally closed what I typed, let me try again.

It's nice that we're now interested in Obama's Muslim background now that he's a candidate. Isn't that what we're supposed to do BEFORE he becomes a front runner? Now we're stuck choosing between these two ass clowns.

As for the film, I haven't seen it and I GUESS I'll look around on google video, for now my opinion is that it's a fear tactic. Why would CNN and Fox News tell us this is a must see, or "one of the most important films of our time."? OMG Zeitgeist! There are plenty of excellent films on how f**ked up things are here at home, but instead they seem to be using this film as fear mongering.

Don't mean to go "crazy" on this one, but how is this explainable?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1HPNpxbfX8




I've seen the 9/11 and London bombing inside job stuff too, the jury is still out on both. I recall several conspiracy theories that have been debunked, like the Lunar missions, Area 51, the world is flat, 9/11 was an inside job. Lady Di and JFK Jr. were murdered. Heathens are winning the war on Christmas. American Idol is rigged. Barack Obama is a radical Muslim. The Secret will make you thin. The Virgin Mary is in the grilled cheese. That’s what it’s like to live inside the mind of the 21st-century conspiracy theorist, who believes that all you have to do is look at the signs and you’ll see what’s really going on.

http://www.gatecreepers.com/entries/exc ... y-theorie/

Myth #1: Conspiracy theories offer a simplistic view of how the world is run.
Myth #2: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof
Myth #3: Conspiracy theories violate Occam's Razor
Myth #4: Conspiracy theorists believe in UFOs / Aliens / Apollo Moon / Holocaust denial
Myth #5: Government conspiracy theories provide false relief from fear of real social problems
Myth #6: Conspiracy theories violate Popper's rule of falsifiability
Myth #7: Governments are unable to cover up their conspiracies
Myth #8: Conspiracies would be quickly exposed by the media
Myth #9: Conspiracy theories are attractive for their entertainment value
Myth #10: Conspiracy theorists repeat their claims no matter how much they are debunked
Myth #11: Conspiracy theories undermine confidence in the democratic system
Myth #12: Conspiracy theories are based on faith
Myth #13: Conspiracy theorists are paranoid and engage in fearmongering
Myth #14: Conspiracy theorists are anti-semitic
Myth #15: Conspiracy theorists give themselves a false academic façade to tell half-truths
Myth #16: Conspiracy theorists are crazy / nutty / kooky / cranky
Myth #17: Conspiracy theories assume the involvement of a large number of people
Myth #18: Conspiracy whistleblowers would be dead if their claims were true.
Myth #19: Conspiracy theories blame evil actors whilst failing to address root causes
Myth #20: Conspiracy theories give a sense of exclusive knowledge
Myth #21: Conspiracy theorists feel powerless and blame the establishment for their failures
Myth #22: Conspiracy theories are reassuring because they give a sense of order
Myth #23: Conspiracy theorists accuse people who disagree with them of being part of the cover-up
Myth #24: The world is chaotic rather than conspiratorial
Myth #25: Conspiracy theorists believe that all aspects of every official story have to be consistent
Myth #26: Conspiracy theory is an 'industry'
Myth #27: Conspiracy theorists dismiss evidence against their arguments as being part of the conspiracy
Myth #28: There have been conspiracy theories about every major historical event
Myth #29: Conspiracy theories are convenient to their proponents because they are impossible to prove
Myth #30: Conspiracy theories gain acceptance because they make sense out of traumatic events by designating scapegoats
Myth #31: People look into conspiracy theories because they bring relief to uncertainty of traumatic events by filling the void
Myth #32: Conspiracy theorists select evidence and fix it according to predetermined conclusions
Myth #33: Conspiracy theorists are political extremists
Myth #34: Conspiracy theorists only look at evidence that confirms their theories
Myth #35: Conspiracy theories can cause insurrections
Myth #36: Conspiracism results in an excessively diverse set of different narratives based on different assumptions
Myth #37: Believing in conspiracy theories makes people become paranoid
Myth #38: Conspirators would be overcome with guilt and confess
Myth #39: Conspiracy theories can only be proven through official acceptance
Myth #40: Conspiracy theories are a waste of time
Myth #41: Conspiracy theories ascribe too often on malice what should be blamed on incompetence
Myth #42: Conspiracy theories appeal because they validate personal biases
Myth #43: People believe in conspiracies because they don't know how things work
Myth #44: People believe in conspiracies because they make them feel empowered
Myth #45: Conspiracy theories appeal to common sense
Myth #46: Conspiracy theories assume that big events cannot result from small causes
Myth #47: Conspiracy theories are based on accumulation of circumstantial evidence rather than a chain of evidence
Myth #48: Conspiracy theorists over-interpret evidence and documents


All I know is the hand writting is on the wall with many years/decades of anti-american hate propaganda in the middle east, with radical muslim schools teaching the youth to kill americans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0ObL2Clh8g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIGg1RQ ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9HDh5KQ ... re=related

Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_25


Ok, people claim all sorts of conspiracy BS on a daily basis, and there are certain things that are speculatory and can't possibly be proven or disproven. Then you have stuff like how the F*CK an entire building collapses without being hit by a plane, that scene in Zeitgeist where the demo expert demonstrates a diagonal beam cut, and you see the same thing in the 9/11 photos, who knows how many blackboxes 'damaged beyond repair'.

And I just think the terrorist threat domestically is blown out of proportion. Yeah, that's pretty fucked up that they're teaching children that any ideology other then their own is reason to kill, but what are we supposed to do? Unless you plan on bombing everyone thats a radical islamic, it's gonna be pretty damn hard to go in and convince people to believe in something else since war between faiths has been going on since the beginning of time. The war on drugs seems easier.


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Nothing like good ol' fashioned white (North) America.


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Deepslit wrote:
DurangoKiD wrote:
Deepslit wrote:
Damn it, accidentally closed what I typed, let me try again.

It's nice that we're now interested in Obama's Muslim background now that he's a candidate. Isn't that what we're supposed to do BEFORE he becomes a front runner? Now we're stuck choosing between these two ass clowns.

As for the film, I haven't seen it and I GUESS I'll look around on google video, for now my opinion is that it's a fear tactic. Why would CNN and Fox News tell us this is a must see, or "one of the most important films of our time."? OMG Zeitgeist! There are plenty of excellent films on how f**ked up things are here at home, but instead they seem to be using this film as fear mongering.

Don't mean to go "crazy" on this one, but how is this explainable?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1HPNpxbfX8




I've seen the 9/11 and London bombing inside job stuff too, the jury is still out on both. I recall several conspiracy theories that have been debunked, like the Lunar missions, Area 51, the world is flat, 9/11 was an inside job. Lady Di and JFK Jr. were murdered. Heathens are winning the war on Christmas. American Idol is rigged. Barack Obama is a radical Muslim. The Secret will make you thin. The Virgin Mary is in the grilled cheese. That’s what it’s like to live inside the mind of the 21st-century conspiracy theorist, who believes that all you have to do is look at the signs and you’ll see what’s really going on.

http://www.gatecreepers.com/entries/exc ... y-theorie/

Myth #1: Conspiracy theories offer a simplistic view of how the world is run.
Myth #2: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof
Myth #3: Conspiracy theories violate Occam's Razor
Myth #4: Conspiracy theorists believe in UFOs / Aliens / Apollo Moon / Holocaust denial
Myth #5: Government conspiracy theories provide false relief from fear of real social problems
Myth #6: Conspiracy theories violate Popper's rule of falsifiability
Myth #7: Governments are unable to cover up their conspiracies
Myth #8: Conspiracies would be quickly exposed by the media
Myth #9: Conspiracy theories are attractive for their entertainment value
Myth #10: Conspiracy theorists repeat their claims no matter how much they are debunked
Myth #11: Conspiracy theories undermine confidence in the democratic system
Myth #12: Conspiracy theories are based on faith
Myth #13: Conspiracy theorists are paranoid and engage in fearmongering
Myth #14: Conspiracy theorists are anti-semitic
Myth #15: Conspiracy theorists give themselves a false academic façade to tell half-truths
Myth #16: Conspiracy theorists are crazy / nutty / kooky / cranky
Myth #17: Conspiracy theories assume the involvement of a large number of people
Myth #18: Conspiracy whistleblowers would be dead if their claims were true.
Myth #19: Conspiracy theories blame evil actors whilst failing to address root causes
Myth #20: Conspiracy theories give a sense of exclusive knowledge
Myth #21: Conspiracy theorists feel powerless and blame the establishment for their failures
Myth #22: Conspiracy theories are reassuring because they give a sense of order
Myth #23: Conspiracy theorists accuse people who disagree with them of being part of the cover-up
Myth #24: The world is chaotic rather than conspiratorial
Myth #25: Conspiracy theorists believe that all aspects of every official story have to be consistent
Myth #26: Conspiracy theory is an 'industry'
Myth #27: Conspiracy theorists dismiss evidence against their arguments as being part of the conspiracy
Myth #28: There have been conspiracy theories about every major historical event
Myth #29: Conspiracy theories are convenient to their proponents because they are impossible to prove
Myth #30: Conspiracy theories gain acceptance because they make sense out of traumatic events by designating scapegoats
Myth #31: People look into conspiracy theories because they bring relief to uncertainty of traumatic events by filling the void
Myth #32: Conspiracy theorists select evidence and fix it according to predetermined conclusions
Myth #33: Conspiracy theorists are political extremists
Myth #34: Conspiracy theorists only look at evidence that confirms their theories
Myth #35: Conspiracy theories can cause insurrections
Myth #36: Conspiracism results in an excessively diverse set of different narratives based on different assumptions
Myth #37: Believing in conspiracy theories makes people become paranoid
Myth #38: Conspirators would be overcome with guilt and confess
Myth #39: Conspiracy theories can only be proven through official acceptance
Myth #40: Conspiracy theories are a waste of time
Myth #41: Conspiracy theories ascribe too often on malice what should be blamed on incompetence
Myth #42: Conspiracy theories appeal because they validate personal biases
Myth #43: People believe in conspiracies because they don't know how things work
Myth #44: People believe in conspiracies because they make them feel empowered
Myth #45: Conspiracy theories appeal to common sense
Myth #46: Conspiracy theories assume that big events cannot result from small causes
Myth #47: Conspiracy theories are based on accumulation of circumstantial evidence rather than a chain of evidence
Myth #48: Conspiracy theorists over-interpret evidence and documents


All I know is the hand writting is on the wall with many years/decades of anti-american hate propaganda in the middle east, with radical muslim schools teaching the youth to kill americans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0ObL2Clh8g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIGg1RQ ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9HDh5KQ ... re=related

Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_25


Ok, people claim all sorts of conspiracy BS on a daily basis, and there are certain things that are speculatory and can't possibly be proven or disproven. Then you have stuff like how the f**k an entire building collapses without being hit by a plane, that scene in Zeitgeist where the demo expert demonstrates a diagonal beam cut, and you see the same thing in the 9/11 photos, who knows how many blackboxes 'damaged beyond repair'.

And I just think the terrorist threat domestically is blown out of proportion. Yeah, that's pretty f**ked up that they're teaching children that any ideology other then their own is reason to kill, but what are we supposed to do? Unless you plan on bombing everyone thats a radical islamic, it's gonna be pretty damn hard to go in and convince people to believe in something else since war between faiths has been going on since the beginning of time. The war on drugs seems easier.




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We should all just outwardly fear everything that isn't Republican.

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ApoKolypse wrote:
Deepslit wrote:
DurangoKiD wrote:
Deepslit wrote:
Damn it, accidentally closed what I typed, let me try again.

It's nice that we're now interested in Obama's Muslim background now that he's a candidate. Isn't that what we're supposed to do BEFORE he becomes a front runner? Now we're stuck choosing between these two ass clowns.

As for the film, I haven't seen it and I GUESS I'll look around on google video, for now my opinion is that it's a fear tactic. Why would CNN and Fox News tell us this is a must see, or "one of the most important films of our time."? OMG Zeitgeist! There are plenty of excellent films on how f**ked up things are here at home, but instead they seem to be using this film as fear mongering.

Don't mean to go "crazy" on this one, but how is this explainable?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1HPNpxbfX8




I've seen the 9/11 and London bombing inside job stuff too, the jury is still out on both. I recall several conspiracy theories that have been debunked, like the Lunar missions, Area 51, the world is flat, 9/11 was an inside job. Lady Di and JFK Jr. were murdered. Heathens are winning the war on Christmas. American Idol is rigged. Barack Obama is a radical Muslim. The Secret will make you thin. The Virgin Mary is in the grilled cheese. That’s what it’s like to live inside the mind of the 21st-century conspiracy theorist, who believes that all you have to do is look at the signs and you’ll see what’s really going on.

http://www.gatecreepers.com/entries/exc ... y-theorie/

Myth #1: Conspiracy theories offer a simplistic view of how the world is run.
Myth #2: Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof
Myth #3: Conspiracy theories violate Occam's Razor
Myth #4: Conspiracy theorists believe in UFOs / Aliens / Apollo Moon / Holocaust denial
Myth #5: Government conspiracy theories provide false relief from fear of real social problems
Myth #6: Conspiracy theories violate Popper's rule of falsifiability
Myth #7: Governments are unable to cover up their conspiracies
Myth #8: Conspiracies would be quickly exposed by the media
Myth #9: Conspiracy theories are attractive for their entertainment value
Myth #10: Conspiracy theorists repeat their claims no matter how much they are debunked
Myth #11: Conspiracy theories undermine confidence in the democratic system
Myth #12: Conspiracy theories are based on faith
Myth #13: Conspiracy theorists are paranoid and engage in fearmongering
Myth #14: Conspiracy theorists are anti-semitic
Myth #15: Conspiracy theorists give themselves a false academic façade to tell half-truths
Myth #16: Conspiracy theorists are crazy / nutty / kooky / cranky
Myth #17: Conspiracy theories assume the involvement of a large number of people
Myth #18: Conspiracy whistleblowers would be dead if their claims were true.
Myth #19: Conspiracy theories blame evil actors whilst failing to address root causes
Myth #20: Conspiracy theories give a sense of exclusive knowledge
Myth #21: Conspiracy theorists feel powerless and blame the establishment for their failures
Myth #22: Conspiracy theories are reassuring because they give a sense of order
Myth #23: Conspiracy theorists accuse people who disagree with them of being part of the cover-up
Myth #24: The world is chaotic rather than conspiratorial
Myth #25: Conspiracy theorists believe that all aspects of every official story have to be consistent
Myth #26: Conspiracy theory is an 'industry'
Myth #27: Conspiracy theorists dismiss evidence against their arguments as being part of the conspiracy
Myth #28: There have been conspiracy theories about every major historical event
Myth #29: Conspiracy theories are convenient to their proponents because they are impossible to prove
Myth #30: Conspiracy theories gain acceptance because they make sense out of traumatic events by designating scapegoats
Myth #31: People look into conspiracy theories because they bring relief to uncertainty of traumatic events by filling the void
Myth #32: Conspiracy theorists select evidence and fix it according to predetermined conclusions
Myth #33: Conspiracy theorists are political extremists
Myth #34: Conspiracy theorists only look at evidence that confirms their theories
Myth #35: Conspiracy theories can cause insurrections
Myth #36: Conspiracism results in an excessively diverse set of different narratives based on different assumptions
Myth #37: Believing in conspiracy theories makes people become paranoid
Myth #38: Conspirators would be overcome with guilt and confess
Myth #39: Conspiracy theories can only be proven through official acceptance
Myth #40: Conspiracy theories are a waste of time
Myth #41: Conspiracy theories ascribe too often on malice what should be blamed on incompetence
Myth #42: Conspiracy theories appeal because they validate personal biases
Myth #43: People believe in conspiracies because they don't know how things work
Myth #44: People believe in conspiracies because they make them feel empowered
Myth #45: Conspiracy theories appeal to common sense
Myth #46: Conspiracy theories assume that big events cannot result from small causes
Myth #47: Conspiracy theories are based on accumulation of circumstantial evidence rather than a chain of evidence
Myth #48: Conspiracy theorists over-interpret evidence and documents


All I know is the hand writting is on the wall with many years/decades of anti-american hate propaganda in the middle east, with radical muslim schools teaching the youth to kill americans.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0ObL2Clh8g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjIGg1RQ ... re=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9HDh5KQ ... re=related

Yellow_Flash_Colorz_PDT_25


Ok, people claim all sorts of conspiracy BS on a daily basis, and there are certain things that are speculatory and can't possibly be proven or disproven. Then you have stuff like how the f**k an entire building collapses without being hit by a plane, that scene in Zeitgeist where the demo expert demonstrates a diagonal beam cut, and you see the same thing in the 9/11 photos, who knows how many blackboxes 'damaged beyond repair'.

And I just think the terrorist threat domestically is blown out of proportion. Yeah, that's pretty f**ked up that they're teaching children that any ideology other then their own is reason to kill, but what are we supposed to do? Unless you plan on bombing everyone thats a radical islamic, it's gonna be pretty damn hard to go in and convince people to believe in something else since war between faiths has been going on since the beginning of time. The war on drugs seems easier.




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