This was probably already discussed while I was gone, but iowanna go look through everything so I'll ask it anyways.

Why don't we turn the deserted 1337fest server into the classic n00bfest funmaps server we had back in the CZ days? That always seemed to draw a pretty consistent crowd, just put it on iceworld and have other maps on rtv.

It seems like we could at least try it out for a few weeks; the worst that could happen is no one joins and we've traded one empty server for another.

CZ is dead. Really dead. CZ cal is a total joke these days. Everyone has moved on to 1.6 and source. Stick to source. In reality, you'd have a better chance if you started another large source server, but allow awps. Nobody wants to pub small servers anymore and it will give people the option of awping without people crying about it.

I think he meant a source funmaps server.

Yep.

Didn't we already try and fail that?

Well, I see Iceworld source being a better bet than the cal map lineup that's currently being used on it.

AWP SERVER!! all AWP MAPS!!

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I think the AWP server is a great idea.That way when people complain about no Awp's in the main you could just say "Hey that's why we have a AWP server".

When it was a funmaps server admins would change the map to a gay one and leave it, then no one would join.

I would like to see either a reverse GG or another deathmatch server with funmaps.

reverse gg servers do really well/

Mod servers only work for a short time. It's always best to keep it old school. Do the 30 man server with no restrictions and it will be more popular than the current 30.

I agree there should be somewhere to use AWPs; how about a primarily iceworld server with an AWP map and scoutzknivez (and maybe an aim map or something) on rtv?

We could always try something like that for a few weeks (I think it takes about a month to see if a new server is really going to pick up or die), and if it's not going well we could try something like reverse gungame like ACM was suggesting.

I just don't see any harm (except having to change the server files) and I know it worked really well back in CZ. I remember both the main and the funmaps almost always had a decent amount of people in them. When we finally got the elite server to be popular with n00bs, then the main was always empty. That's why I think we should stay away from something too similar from the main setup with normal maps (cs_ and de_).

I wish I could build a mind control device and drag everyone back to CZ. :P

/fixed

Fix'd.

Honestly though the iceworld maps in source blow dicks.

I think a CAL rotation server with everything enabled and all-talk off would be amazing.

CZ is not source. The elite server is not going to fly because it's too small. People want to play in big pubs, that's why n00bfest attracts so many people.

And we also need to look at the elite server for what it was, a place for n00bs. It rarely had more than 1 or 2 non-n00bs in it at a time. It also never brought new n00bs in, the main did that.

Continuing to throw money at a small server in source isn't going to work. You have to dive into a 30 man or cut it off altogether.

30 man server, allow 2 awps per side and it will negate whoring. Also give it CGS or Cal-1.6 roundtimes and that will move things along faster.

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Source funmaps are garbage. Iceworld was the only popular funmap ever in the history of Counter Strike and they managed to F*CK it up in source.