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the_yeti
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 anybody here know...
of a way to make a folder on a network drive, that any workstation on the network can add files (.pdf's) to, can view and copy files from, but NOT delete any files from? What we need, basically, is a network folder with a one-way valve. i.e.: users can add, view and copy files, but not be allowed to delete any files. I've looked, but nothing i've found allows such a thing.
Thanks.
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:46 am |
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Tazzaler
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Joined: Wed Jul 23, 2008 11:00 pm Posts: 5727 Location: Dakota, North
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 Re: anybody here know...
Have you checked the folder security and permissions, I think you should be able to create permission in there. I swear I saw this shit before, I need to look at some books I got.
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:59 am |
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Goodkat
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 Re: anybody here know...
Is this on a windows box or linux? If Windows: Right click on folder, choose properties Click security tab. Add Everyone or if that is already there just choose "Everyone" Then check the boxes Read & Execute, List Folder Contents, Read, Write Do not check Full Control or Modify That should do it. If Linux: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 8:31 am |
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the_yeti
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the folder would be on a network drive on our main server, running Server 2003.
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Goodkat
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 Re: anybody here know...
In that case, the instructions I gave above should work.
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:22 am |
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r3xx3r
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 Re: anybody here know...
u also need to set the sharing options. he just told u about the NTFS permissions. i am not sure how to do it, but i will look when i get a chance.
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:32 am |
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the_yeti
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i forgot to mention, we would need certain users to be able to delete or replace files, and others not be able. changing the permissions for the 'Everyone' group doesn't allow that. 
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:15 am |
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Goodkat
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 Re: anybody here know...
In that case, you need to make separate security groups and set the permissions for each group. Then add the users to those groups. Is this a domain environment? Are you using Active Directory?
This should be a relatively simple task. As far as the sharing goes, it's the same concept, you just set the sharing permissions for the groups.
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:27 pm |
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r3xx3r
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i have 2 simple question? what is ur position in this company? why, if u cant do this on ur own, are u required to do this?
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:30 pm |
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the_yeti
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goodkat: domain - no, active directory - idk
r3xx3r:
1) Q.C./I.T. assistant.
2) This is not required. This was requested as an ideal way to handle a folder full of sensitive PDF's that we don't want any tom, dick, or harry in the company accidentally deleting. What we want is 1 or 2 specific users having full control of this network folder (for drawing rev control purposes), while every one else (specifically our purchasing dept.) is able to send these PDF's out for quote, copy from or add to the folder, but not delete or replace anything.
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:07 pm |
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Tazzaler
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 Re: anybody here know...
Shit lol if not required tell them to zip the folder with a password and they can go back and forth with it lol.
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:12 pm |
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r3xx3r
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yea, the problem with zip files with passwords is u can still open the file, just cant extract anything. but yea, a zip file with a password works well. it makes a huge difference if u have active directory or not, so find out.
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:18 pm |
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Tazzaler
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r3xx3r wrote: yea, the problem with zip files with passwords is u can still open the file, just cant extract anything. but yea, a zip file with a password works well. it makes a huge difference if u have active directory or not, so find out. I guess you have a point, and I forget that you can still delete it so it doesn't solve all the problems.
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r3xx3r
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Tazzaler wrote: r3xx3r wrote: yea, the problem with zip files with passwords is u can still open the file, just cant extract anything. but yea, a zip file with a password works well. it makes a huge difference if u have active directory or not, so find out. I guess you have a point, and I forget that you can still delete it so it doesn't solve all the problems. right, which as i said he needs to know if he is using Active Directory or not.
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 3:31 pm |
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fomenta
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LinuxBut seriously, it'll be interesting to see how you will allow users to write to a folder (to add files) but not allow them to delete the files in the folder. In Linux, I've seen this done using two directories, one has public write access (where you upload) and one does not (where you download). Then you have some script or ftp hook that moves uploaded files from the upload directory to the download directory and applies the correct permissions. You might be also able to use a single directory with public write access and have some script or ftp hook that changes the permissions of the files in the directory but not the containing folder. But a quick test shows that although I was not able to edit the files in the directory, I was able to just straight delete the entire thing. So I'm not so sure about that approach. In either case, you need an active script / cron job or an FTP hook to change permissions.
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:48 pm |
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r3xx3r
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fomenta wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But seriously, it'll be interesting to see how you will allow users to write to a folder (to add files) but not allow them to delete the files in the folder.
In Linux, I've seen this done using two directories, one has public write access (where you upload) and one does not (where you download). Then you have some script or ftp hook that moves uploaded files from the upload directory to the download directory and applies the correct permissions.
You might be also able to use a single directory with public write access and have some script or ftp hook that changes the permissions of the files in the directory but not the containing folder. But a quick test shows that although I was not able to edit the files in the directory, I was able to just straight delete the entire thing. So I'm not so sure about that approach.
In either case, you need an active script / cron job or an FTP hook to change permissions. that is all well and good except he is using windows server 2003.
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:58 pm |
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the_yeti
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 Re: anybody here know...
what we're gonna do is this: keep a shared folder locally on a users machine, not on the network. This way, we can set permissions how we want them (as stated previously), and only that machine's user can delete or replace files. When a file needs to be deleted or replaced, it'll be done on his machine.
thanks for all the suggestions, though
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r3xx3r
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 Re: anybody here know...
the_yeti wrote: what we're gonna do is this: keep a shared folder locally on a users machine, not on the network. This way, we can set permissions how we want them (as stated previously), and only that machine's user can delete or replace files. When a file needs to be deleted or replaced, it'll be done on his machine.
thanks for all the suggestions, though ok, that works. but there is another way to do it. u can use the advanced button when in the permissions area. i assume u know how to share a folder, and how to set share and NTFS permissions. there are more precise permissions, like ones specifically for delete, that u can use.
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:01 pm |
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the_yeti
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 Re: anybody here know...
i know about the advanced permissions. but changing them for the "Everyone" group, that means nobody can delete or replace files. Nobody. Unless the permissions are changed back. (this is in regards to a folder on the network)
We decided that the shared folder on the local machine, with the permissions set as such is the best way to go about it.
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| Wed Jul 28, 2010 9:44 pm |
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r3xx3r
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 Re: anybody here know...
the_yeti wrote: i know about the advanced permissions. but changing them for the "Everyone" group, that means nobody can delete or replace files. Nobody. Unless the permissions are changed back. (this is in regards to a folder on the network)
We decided that the shared folder on the local machine, with the permissions set as such is the best way to go about it. ok. u do know u can set permissions for more than just Everyone right? u can give specific users specific permissions. but my way would probably take more work.
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